Light Rail
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IT'S TIME FOR SOME TOUGH TALK about transportation. More to the point, it's time for some candor on the subject of traffic congestion in Cobb, and what a proposed light rail line up the Cobb Parkway corridor might or might not do to relieve it.

County leaders are showing definite signs of interest in the rail line, which would run from the Cumberland Mall area north to the Town Center/Kennesaw State University area, with several stops along the way. But there are two big, interrelated problems with that proposal. The first is that at present, there are no plans for that rail line to interface, or connect with MARTA rail. That would make it less than desirable to many potential riders, who would have to either change trains or transfer to a bus, then to a MARTA train, to reach their destination. And it almost certainly makes it impossible for the project to attract the millions - or probably billions - in federal dollars that would be needed to build such a system.

In essence, the current plan is little different from the mall-to-mall rail line rejected by county voters in the late 1990s. There's just not much target ridership for a mall-to-mall rail line.

And even if there were to be a direct link to MARTA rail, that would only serve riders interested in going inside the Perimeter. As anyone who has ever spent much time on Atlanta area interstates knows, there are just as many or more drivers heading east and west on I-285 as there are heading toward downtown.

Moreover, any rail line built in the Cobb Parkway/I-75 corridor should not be designed with KSU/Town Center as its northern terminus. Rather, it should be designed to extend further north toward Cartersville and beyond in the 75 corridor, and to extend up the I-575 corridor toward Canton. That's because a huge part of Cobb's traffic problem originates with drivers from beyond our northern and western borders, who flood through the county each day on their way to and from work. And a mall-to-mall rail line won't be of much interest to many of them.

Yes, there are obvious drawbacks to interfacing a Cobb rail line with MARTA rail. MARTA has a history of being both costly and poorly run. And its hub-and-spoke rail lines all run toward downtown, which is no longer the destination of choice for many commuters. But a Cobb rail line that does not venture beyond the county line will be dead on arrival with both the feds and with local riders and taxpayers.

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THOSE RUNNING for elective office in the coming primaries were asked a series of questions about transportation issues in the questionnaires the MDJ mailed out this month. Their answers were printed over the course of several editions of last week's newspaper, and above all, they show a lack of consensus about how to deal with our traffic congestion. Some prefer adding lanes, some preferred HOV or HOT lanes, some prefer light rail, some want to link with MARTA rail, some don't, and some suggested combinations of such approaches.

The bottom line, though, is that there is no consensus about what should be done. Yet until there is, you can be sure of one thing: Nothing will be done.

What Cobb needs is strong leadership that can coalesce behind a plan, rally public opinion behind it and then work to obtain the necessary state and federal funding to implement it.

We have spent too many years waiting for leadership from the governor's mansion, from the Legislature, from the state DOT, from the Atlanta Regional Commission and from just about everywhere but ourselves. We've seen study after study after study cranked out, while traffic gets worse and worse and the cost of addressing it goes up and up.

The tentative backing for the mall-to-mall rail line is a good first step, in terms of forming a consensus. But what's needed is honest talk from those leaders about the advantages, and the necessity, of a rail line that connects with lines serving the rest of the metro area, whether they are operated by MARTA or the state or whoever. Because until there is such talk, and such consensus, this train won't be leaving the station any time soon.
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RecoveringBucheadian
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July 14, 2010
If light rail made any sense to people that earn more than minimum wage an entrepreneur would have come up with something that makes a profit if public officials wouldn't interfer. Whatever happened to "if you can't afford it, don't buy it." I moved from Buckhead because ultimately my property taxes were more than my mortgage payment and as soon as they put a Marta Station in our backyard the crime became so bad we had to demand a police station to oombat it. I am tired of my tax dollars being wasted on pie in the sky ideas that really don't "help" anyone. Think about all those wasted HOV lanes that just make the roads more dangerous. If we can't pay for it, don't buy it!
dave y
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June 23, 2010
Second cup and your solution is? I do not agree that Light rail toward Chattanooga or to Savannah

would not be cost effective. It would be extremely profitable for areas between these cities. Like it or not the future will not be in fossil fuel but in high speed rail. Is a "mixmaster" bus service really the best this state can do? Instead of looking to future generations Georgia will continue to do what Georgia does best "nothing".
Mix Use Zoning
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June 22, 2010
Mix Use Zoning: Learn it, Understand it, Use it.

After living in several cities with fantastic public transportation, Atlanta is decades behind. The main problem is that most jobs or business centers are not all located in strong pockets throughout Atlanta where a likely train stop would go in. Also, there is rarely high rise housing near strong job centers.

If there is not a lot of housing near business centers, then that is bad city planning. You need to live where you work instead of commuting for hours on end.

Look at cities with successful public transportation (Europe, Japan, DC, NY, ETC) Learn from their mistakes and build from there. Better city planning is much cheaper then building yet another interstate or a light rail.
Second Cup
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June 22, 2010
Dave Y just doesn't get it. This is not about race, as there are no barriers, official or unofficial to intercounty migration as there once was here. CCT bus service...for those in Fulton who don't have a car...has been providing mixmaster service for over a decade now. Dave...get a clue. This isn't a post-racial, Obama moment, even thought you apparently want it to be. This is about more government waste on an poorly conceived project that won't accomplish ANY traffic congestion reduction. It's a foolish system that should never be built -- based entirely on its chance of success, not on race.
dave y
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June 21, 2010
As someone who has lived in Cobb County for sixty years I can tell you that there will never, never be light rail connecting Cobb and Fulton County as long as our generation survives. Cobb as part of the golden crescent of white flight of the 70's

originally rejected MARTA and have rejected it ever since for one reason "race". To characerize MARTA as being historically poorly run and costly is disengenous. Surburban whites fear light rail as a means of bringing Fultons black people into their community plain and simple. You will never see objections to extending light rail from Cobb north to Chattanooga because these counties are predominately white. Light rail that does not connect to MARTA and Atlanta is worthless and will never be approved by the federal govt. Politically this is our dirty little secret and the reason Cobb Countians will be backed up in traffic jams for at least another generation

mk-just silly talk!!
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June 20, 2010
So frustrating! Time for talk is through! Just for fun,(or a good cry)... google rail systems in cities such as Dubai, Hong Kong, Bejing, Monteal, Moscow, Madrid & Seoul, S. Korea. Then ask yourself,... how in Gods name did this country fall so far behind? While you're @ it, check out the worlds best airports too! Not ONE in America!
archibald
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June 20, 2010
I've been living in Atlanta since 1978- and I'm still amazed at how inefficient y'all are at solving traffic congestion. What is so abstract about building a rail line that connects those OTP to thos e inside? Seems like a no brainer to me. 24 hour HOV lanes is your typical government brainless solution, and to make matters worse some genius has decided to install lights at the on ramps. Amazing ineptitude which creates backups onto surface streets. I just don't get it.
David in NW Cobb
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June 20, 2010
It all comes down to the technology selected. It can't be heavy rail (like MARTA) because it is insanely expensive. It can't be light rail because it too is very expensive and it's capacity is too light.

Options like HOT, HOV, BRT and other such tepid attempts to "do something" sacrifice existing infrastructure (a lane of existing roads), fail to mitigate congestion.

The technology selection determines how many miles you can serve, where you can go with it and how attractive it will be to potential riders... the key to its economic success.

I like the HighRoad system since it's proposed business plan uses private money and state revenue bonds to build the extensive 64.5 mile system. I believe it will have value to potential riders and, therefore, succeed. Avoiding the need for Federal money is also very important to avoiding a slow, inefficient deployment. Public/private infrastructure development is the only way in these economic times!
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