KSU's Papp gives his side in case of illegal student
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DEAR EDITOR:

I write to set the record straight regarding recent Marietta Daily Journal articles about KSU's role in the Jessica Colotl matter.

Although Ms. Colotl was arrested on March 30, KSU's administration did not become aware of her arrest until April 26. On that date, we were informed that she was arrested for obstructing traffic and driving without a license; that she had an expired Mexican passport; and that she was in the custody of the Immigration Control and Enforcement Agency.

With that being the extent of our knowledge, I asked KSU Attorney Flora Devine to determine Ms. Colotl's status. Ms. Devine called the Mexican consulate and a former Mexican consul general to make them aware of Ms. Colotl's situation. She also contacted Ms. Colotl's lawyer. Meanwhile, KSU's chief student affairs officer talked with the president of Ms. Colotl's sorority to inquire what assistance KSU could provide.

On April 28, I talked with Ms. Colotl's lawyer, who asked if I would submit a letter in the form of an affidavit for Ms. Colotl, whose case was to be heard on April 30 by the Atlanta Immigration Court. I did so, with the letter being based on the facts as we understood them on April 28. The letter in part reads: "I write to request that within the letter of the law (emphasis added), Jessica be provided every opportunity to stay at, or return to, Kennesaw State University."

That was, and is, the extent of KSU's involvement in Ms. Colotl's case.

On April 30, the Immigration Court ruled that Ms. Colotl had to leave the United States within 20 days. The case was closed.

On May 5, ICE informed Ms. Colotl that she could stay in the country until May 5, 2011, to complete her studies. No one at KSU was involved in, or lobbied for, that decision.

Let me now turn to the Around Town column on Tuesday headlined "No Mas!" which implies that I avoided talking with the MDJ. I did not learn about the interview request until 2:30 p.m. Monday, at which time I was off campus attending to several pressing university matters. I simply did not have time to talk that day and instructed KSU's spokeswoman to re-issue the statement KSU issued last Friday as a final statement. I have always been, and remain, willing to talk with the MDJ, even though I am not always able to do so immediately.

Finally, while KSU did assist Ms. Colotl as related above, no effort to "spring her from an Alabama immigration jail and let her pay in-state tuition" ever occurred. Now that Ms. Colotl has been identified as undocumented, she will pay out-of-state tuition, as do all other known undocumented students.

Please be assured that KSU and I comply fully with the letter and intent of U.S. and Georgia law, and with Board of Regents policies. At the same time, we are pleased that ICE, with no KSU involvement, allowed Ms. Colotl to pursue the completion of her degree before she returns to Mexico.

I hope that this clarifies what actually did, and did not, occur.

Dan Papp
President
Kennesaw State University
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ucanusenews
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June 30, 2010
"I write to request that within the letter of the law (emphasis added), Jessica be provided every opportunity to stay at, or return to, Kennesaw State University."

That's CRAZY...you cannot DARE TO SAY that you had no 'influence' in their decision for the taxpayers to continue to fund this illegal travesty.

YOU wrote on letterhead to PLEASE LET HER STAY...and, how would THEY know that you had not VERIFIED HER STATUS when it was the job of YOUR employees at KSU??????

This is DISGUSTING. Always trying to pass the buck.

Sadly the taxpayers will NEVER recoup the $ we have spent to feed and educate this woman, not to mention the rest of her family's lifestyle over MANY years...

And, you just ADD TO that INSULT.

Wouldn't matter WHAT country she's 'from'...she's known her WHOLE LIFE that she was CHEATING. And, you stood behind her and upheld her CHEATING in the name of the school you work at and WITH MY (and other's) TAX DOLLARS!!!!!!

Know the Truth
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May 15, 2010
Again, why be so verbal. Papp, you are wrong and I think you know it. Just man up and face the facts. You screwed up. The only correct thing to do, by obeying all laws, is throw this criminal out of college.
Enough Already
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May 15, 2010
Uh-huh...right. Make up your mind. If you are wrong have enough chacacter and moral values to admit it. Decide. Right or wrong, sir? No in between. ENOUGH ALREADY! That is one of the main problems with people like you.
debid52
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May 14, 2010
Will she have to repay the out of state tuition for the years she was lying and I was working to pay taxes so she good go to a state school while being illegal? If I sound a little miffed, I am.
debid52
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May 14, 2010
If a university asks for your legal residence and you are in the country illegally then aren't you lying if you say you have a USA legal address???????
Alan Faircloth
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May 14, 2010
I just love how liberale Kim Huffman uses scripture to justify a socialistic perspective. America will be broke in a week if her vision of the world becomes reality.
anonymous
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May 14, 2010
mk-

I'm sorry you had a meth lab next door. That must have been an awful experience. I wonder how you would feel if it had been a group of white American citizens? Would you campaign as strongly and hatefully against white Americans?

Would you have joined the CCC or the KKK if it had been black Americans? Or a neo-Nazi group if it had been a group of Jewish heritage?

I wonder.
Sounds Plausible
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May 14, 2010
The issue addressed in this letter is what KSU did in response to the actions of this student, NOT the student's actions. Dr. Papp's letter doesn't say that Ms. Coloti has ever paid in state tuition, the MDJ editorial said that. If she did, then it was because she claimed Georgia residency it and the University had grounds to believe the application. at the time My daughter's college application did not require her to validate her US Citizenship, it only asked for her legal residence. I personally don't think it is a good idea to require state universities to investigate students and enforce immigration laws, that is the role of the Federal Government and law enforcement. To blame KSU for this situation as the MDJ and many readers have done is just plain stupid. If the student works our her legal problems with the US government and the US Government determines that she can remain in the country, then KSU should not usurp the authority of the US Government and just allow her to complete her education if she can pay for it--regardless of the opinion of the MDJ and most of you.
Kim Huffman
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May 14, 2010
To all my detractors: Remember Jesus ( as an infant ) fled or "immigrated" to Egypt to avoid persecution under Herod. Jesus advocated breaking unjust laws of the time..stoning the adulteress to death was the law of the time...he essentially broke it up with his compassionate pleads. Wasn't he breaking the law when he overturned the money changers tables at the temple..a true rebel at the time, in the name of human compassion and love....and I don't think a of modern day Christians follow in those footsteps, particularly in this case. So obedience to unjust laws are not in the spirit of Christianity...even if that is an unpopular thought
Soccer Anyone?
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May 13, 2010
Dr. Papp,

Would you go to bat for a student who was an American citizen, stopped on campus for a traffic violation and taken to jail because their driver's license had expired? Probably not. But hey, your behavior is just following in the footsteps of Betty, who wants KSU to be such an "international" university. It's so much easier to cut the ribbon to a new soccer stadium isn't it?

Signed,

Previous KSU Student

e-verify
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May 13, 2010
sounds plausible - how could she get into KSU with simply a Mexican passport anyway? A student visa would have been required and she would have been charged out-of-state tuition. And when international students break the law they must be handled by the justice system just like anyone else. Look at the girl who murdered her roommate in Italy: the US couldn't do much to help her. And just think about the times YOU are required to provide your SSN in normal, everyday situations. And think about this girl lying or using someone else's at each of these times.
mk-
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May 13, 2010
To proud American,... I worked 7 days a week, for 10 years to buy a house, remodel it & to pay it off quickly so I could relax & enjoy life. It was all stripped away overnight, when the DEA surrounded the Michoacaan drug cartels 'meth lab' next door! They were able to 'hide out' in a neighborhood that was full of illegals, here in Cobb!

Americans have lost ALOT, while accomodating ungrateful illegals!

Billy & Kathy Inman had their only son (stripped away) by an illegal drunk driver!!

So, think it through, proud American, before you make stupid meaningless statements!!
proud american
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May 13, 2010
I dont think none of you know what it is like to have worked for something for so long to then just be stripped away from it... this country was based on freedom and oportunity. What happened to that??? she did have a passport and Dr. Papp did nothing against the law. it was an immigration decision to let her stay. she was just allowed to finish her ed in ksu.. that is all. Why is everyone so against it???
Indian Joe
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May 13, 2010
Thank you anonymous for the spelling lesson - but will put my education up against yours anytime. Guess you must agree with about everything else, since this was basically your main point. Where did you get your theology degree and what church do you attend because I sure don't want to go to a church that believes, as you obviously do, that breaking the law is just dandy and should be ignored. See I went to school when teachers really wanted to teach not just worry about pay, class sizes, perks and vacations. And just what laws of God condon lawbreakers - and illegals are just that?
Sounds Plausible
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May 13, 2010
Get a life people. This woman allowed her passport to expire - which is unfortunate and no doubt illegal, but implies that she had a valid passport at one time and didn't walk into the US by crossing the Arizona desert. One can assume that her passport was valid when she applied to KSU. I can't blame KSU for not knowing that her passport is currently expired. Although I am in no way connected to KSU, virtually all large universities in the US have international students, so I assume that when a university has international students, it is only logical that it would have contacts with foreign consulates in case those students run into issues that require contact with their home countries. If I had a child that was attending college abroad, I would sure hope that the university my child was attending had contacts within the US Consulate. And does anyone really think that ICE cares what KSU's opinion is? C'mon folks, ignorance is bliss or in this case - just plain stupid.
American worker
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May 13, 2010
Adios Papp. Maybe a job at Berkley? Cuba? MEXICO? No, waith, they enforce immigration laws in Mexico.
anonymous
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May 13, 2010
And, Indian Joe, that phrase (in which you most ignorantly mis-spell CAESAR), has been interpreted to question whether Christians should submit to the laws of man, versus those of God.
Gotcha!
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May 13, 2010
The KSU police are usually busy patrolling off campus on Busbee Pkwy & Barrett Lakes, so I am thrilled they finally caught someone other than an ordinary citizen going to the mall. Way to go!
Alan Faircloth
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May 12, 2010
First, Papp lied when he said that ICE, with no involvement from KSU, allowed Ms. Colotl pursue completion of her degree. I guess he is excluding the letter he wrote on her behalf. Convenient for sure and essential to the lie. Second, and most importantly, why does Ms. Colotl merit the involvement of KSU's President and legal staff over any other student? I am certain that KSU does not and has not been so helpful to all other students arrested for various indiscretions or otherwise finding themselves in trouble. Third, Papp says he asked the KSU lawyer to determine her status (immigration status I presume) but then says the attorney called to give the Mexican embassy a heads u/p on the situation. Those are two entirely different things and so my question is which one is the truth? Fourth, exactly who informed KSU administration that Colotl had been arrested and why? This seems out of the norm and I have to think this is not a standard practice. Fifth, so how is it that the KSU attorney has the Mexican Consulate's contact info and that of a former Mexican consul general? That seems too convenient, maybe like it has been needed and used previously? Sixth, what does the REST OF YOUR LETTER say (HEY MDJ, How About an open records request.)? Finally, regarding the "known" and "unknown" documented students, is this a case of not verifying because KSU willfully does not want to know the answer? In Ms. Colotl's case, it seems that at a minimum, a picture ID in the form of a drivers' license would be required and could not have been produced....thus indicating a problem.
Indian Joe
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May 12, 2010
First of all KimHuffman - you are a joke. I believe that Jesus also said "render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasars" ... believe this would also include LAWS. Don't undertand you people - as has been sadi before what part of ILLEGAL don't you understand. So she gets to stay here another year, probably with other grants we know nothing of, and when she graduates goes back to Mexico. Andis she has been here since shewas 7,how did she have a Mexican driver license.

One other point, I believe there is a provision in the law on "selective prosecution". Since our government and courts have apparently chosen not to enforce immigration laws, it would seem to me this would be a more than adequate defense on any criminal charge that anyone faces. Either enforce all of the laws against everyone - or enforce none of the laws on everyone. This should include paying taxes to the IRS, DUI's, no insurance, terrorist threats - any criminal charge. f we are going to be a society with no laws, let's make it a society of no laws not just some laws that apply to some people. Regardless of what Papp knew when, he should have stayed out of it - I can't imagine him going to this extent for any other student in trouble - andif not, why not. Come on all of you people out for the heads of the students at Walker, where is your outrage over this - at least Walker students weren't costing you any money as these illegals are!!!
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