‘Thunder’ spineless on gay question
August 31, 2014 12:50 AM | 1161 views | 15 15 comments | 8 8 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DEAR EDITOR:

Re: Front page story, Wednesday’s MDJ, “Marietta must provide benefits to same-sex couples.” Question by MDJ to Mayor Steve “Thunder” Tumlin: Should legally married same sex couples employed by the city (Marietta) get pension benefits? Tumlin’s response: “I have no comment one way or the other about same-sex marriage. I’m not the moral police.”

Well Mr. Mayor, as mayor, it’s my belief that when you’re in charge, that you be in charge, and you darn well better have a position on an issue that involves you and your constituents. Voice your convictions one way or the other. His nickname, “Thunder” should instead be “Spineless.”

Morals aren’t the question here! Tumlin’s personal religious convictions are the question here, or they should be. I’ll shout from the highest platform for his freedom to exercise his right to voice his convictions, whatever they are.

My humble opinion? The federal government can take their mandate requiring Marietta to recognize same-sex couples as married partners when handing out retirement benefits and shove it! My opinion of same-sex partners or marriage is this: Genesis 2:24 and Leviticus 18:22. God said it, I believe it and his word cannot be interpreted any other way. Period.

Donald R. Herod

Marietta

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Cindy Filat
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September 04, 2014
Even a third grader can explain the difference between discrimination and the choice to live a certain lifestyle.

Why should the taxpayers be burdened paying for those who chose to live a particular lifestyle?

The insanity of political correctness continues.
Lib in Cobb
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September 04, 2014
@Herod: Quoting scripture will not change the law. The feds stepped in and corrected an injustice, it doesn't matter what your opinion is or the mayor's. By the way god did not write the bible. These benefits being paid to all married couples will not have any impact on your life at all. You can remain narrow minded.
Too funny
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September 01, 2014
Donald, of course you think your old book gives you a license to hate. It doesn't. You're a pathetic excuse for a person.
Not Too funny
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September 02, 2014
@Too funny

And that is your best response to Mr Herod?

More name calling and psychobabble about hate.

So you think Herod's letter is hate, well what about your name-calling response? Your response is hate too.

Too funny is yet another member of the no substance crowd, who can offer only name-calling as a response to Herod's First Amendment right to an opinion.

The pathetic label actually fits you Mr Too funny.

Too funny
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September 03, 2014
My response is derision, not hate. Mr. Herod is a homophobe, plain and simple. It's not name-calling if it's true.

Shall I quote Leviticus 20 for those too lazy to crack open their so-called "moral" guidebook: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them"

Put to death? This is your religion and it is appalling.
Too Funny Not Smart
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September 03, 2014
Ah, now we see, Mr Too Funny is a Christophobe, plain and simple.

And the Bible is NOT religion. If you want religion, you can find it in any of the mainline churches, like Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, etc.

Your ignorance of spiritual matters is sorely lacking Mr Not Too Funny.

Fox721
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September 03, 2014
The Bible is not like a buffet, where one gets to pick a verse from here and a verse from there, while ignoring other versus, chapters, and books.

Randomly picking a verse and trying to make some point with any one verse is not rightly dividing the Word of God. In order to fully comprehend the Bible, one must rightly divide the Word of God, and that first requires studying the ENTIRE Bible.

If you are going to quote the Bible to make or prove some point, at least first consult someone who is qualified to interpret it for you.

Moreover, religious persons and religious organizations are the wrong place to go. They know nothing about the Bible, other than how to misquote it. Mainline religions, like Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian etc do not preach or believe the Bible.

Too funny
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September 04, 2014
TFNS and Fox721, those are two of the most asinine responses I've ever seen.

If "the Bible is NOT religion" then from where do you get the fundamental tenets of Christianity? The resurrection, salvation, judgment, etc? And why does Mr. Herod cite it as what "God said?" I'll answer it for you. You can't. The holy text of the Christian religion is the Bible. Don't be ridiculous.

As for needing to "first consult someone who is qualified to interpret it for you," what are you even talking about? Rule one of hermeneutics is that you don't use the obscure the clarify what's already clear. There is no other way to interpret "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death," so quit making excuses for its disgusting teachings.

Too funny K-Fo
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September 04, 2014
Too funny aka K-Fo, Oh now I see, anyone who does not agree with you deserves to be called a name, which in your estimation, then renders that person's opinion worthless. Now that IS Too Funny.

There is no such thing as Christian religion. A religion can be anything. For example, feminists follow the religion of feminism, and feminism is not Christian by any stretch. Someone who likes to fish and hunt is a religious outdoor person. Are you starting to comprehend now? A true Christian does not follow any religion.

Truth of the matter is you just cannot stand it, because Mr Herod has an opinion that differs from YOUR religion.

Another Hate letter
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September 01, 2014
Mr Harod, I think instead you should "shove it". And I suggest you take your bigoted opinion with you. Couples of any sex should be allowed to have benefits as long as they meet the age requirements and are in good standing as an employee..
Another Hate reply
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September 02, 2014
@Another Hate letter

So, your best response to Mr Herod's letter is to resort to name calling? That makes your response just Another Hate reply. Your childish reply works both ways.

And how should one respond to -your- opinion? With more name calling?

The response from your ilk can always be counted on to be the same. Any opposing opinion to your narrative is always labeled "hate speech," followed up with name calling.

Judging from your response, you have nothing of substance with which to respond to Mr Herod's letter in an adult-like manner, so run along back to the playground, before recess is over.

"Shove it" response
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September 02, 2014
It was my opinion whether you and your "ilk" like it or not, and what did you contribute?
This IS funny
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September 02, 2014
So, by your own definition, an "opinion" should contain accusations of hate and name-calling?

You are a bit confused. Nevertheless, we have yet to see anything of substance from you in response to Mr Herod's letter, and I doubt we ever will.

City Agenda
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August 31, 2014
Mr. Herod,

I do not care what Mayor Tumlin's personal opinions are, even concerning gay rights. What I care about is that he uphold the laws as they pertain to the City of Marietta. He is an elected official and once elected represents all City of Marietta residents. The federal government has a law pertaining to government pensions and the beneficiaries. The City of Marietta is bound to adhere to those regulations. Mayor Tumlin is an attorney and he is very aware of what his duties are.

Voicing his personal opinions will do no good and has no place in his sworn duties as Mayor of the City of Marietta. I admire him for NOT injecting his personal opinions into his duties.
One of "them"...
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September 04, 2014
I fully agree, City Agenda. And may I add that our Mayor is also smart enough to avoid costly federal lawsuits, along with potential losses of federal funding of projects benefitting our city, in defying the feds by taking an antiquated and litigious position on equal rights.
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