The company you keep tells people who you are
by Kevin Foley
February 07, 2014 12:00 AM | 2292 views | 17 17 comments | 54 54 recommendations | email to a friend | print
In politics, the high road is often the hardest to travel. It requires thoughtfulness, maturity and, most important, courage.

The low road is far less taxing. All you need to be is willfully ignorant, petty and angry.

Last week I wondered why the learned Bob Barr, candidate for Georgia’s 11th Congressional District, wasn’t distancing his campaign from Ted Nugent to avoid being spattered by the 65-year-old rocker’s verbal excrement.

Alas, Barr remains silent — and spattered.

It would appear the candidate has chosen the low road, where he’ll troll for votes among the bottom feeders with the help of fellow NRA board member Nugent.

The column attracted nearly 4,000 views and 25-plus comments at the MDJ’s online edition, most of which were, well, uncomplimentary.

Almost none of the comments argued the column’s central theme, that Barr should disavow Nugent’s endorsement so as not to alienate voters who might be African-American and/or support the president.

Rather, the comments were a toxic stew of personal attacks, racism, NRA talking points and sweaty fever swamp delusions — not unlike Ted Nugent’s rhetoric and writings.

The feedback does offer us an instructive look into the minds’ of those who believe Nugent and Barr are Colossi of conservative thought (comments as they appeared):

“Why is it Obama does things that we clearly know our founders were staunchly against yet no one does anything about it, but when ted get in a lippy mood and says things because he gets upset he wrong?? I think its clearly a serious case of double standards, like the ‘N’ word, they use it like its free yet if a white uses it, ohh!! no its a racist hate crime ...”

“Congratulations, you effeminate marshmallow. You have to invoke the name of a real man to get people to read your weeping commentary.”

“Whomever wrote this diatribe from the left should be put in the ocean at low tide and tied to a post, with crabs at his/her feet… Nugent is a great American.”

“If you dont like guns or want guns then by all means stay away from them! Go move into the urban hive dwelling and be a good drone and someone from the government will be around to help you wipe your butt.”

“Kevin Foley — His logic: Nugent is: Bad guitar player, no fans, draft dodger 100 yrs, ago — that’s rational political discussion? Irrational, emotional, hatred. Mentions free speech, so he’s heard of it, then wields the PC hammer with unbecoming delight. Color me offended by your irrational hatred.”

“I wonder How many of the Conservatives feel Represented by The Current Administration? I sure as hell Don’t, and agree With Ted Nugent, I also want to say I hope I never Rea anything about The Sissy that wrote this article again. I would Hunt with Ted Nugent, But I wouldn’t p-ss on Kevin Foley if he were on Fire.”

“As for imflammatory (sic), it is about time somebody inflamed the people of this country to the point they take action against the traitor in the White House and his socialist, Muslim cronies.”

Chagrined Republicans like Speaker John Boehner and Sen. John McCain recognize they’ll never win the war of ideas with a crowd like this one. They’re ruing the day they mainstreamed them and their “whacko-bird” representatives in Congress.

With the GOP’s survival hanging in the balance, Republican leaders appear to have set out on the high road, marginalizing the extremists and cooperating with Democrats to pass a budget bill.

Is a bipartisan immigration bill next?

Should he be elected, it’s likely the interests of 11th District voters along with Bob Barr will be relegated to the party’s fringes so the adults in Congress can finally do the people’s work.

Kevin Foley is an author, writer and public relations executive who lives in Kennesaw.
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EM Buckner
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February 11, 2014
Let me start by joining "Guido Sarducci" in supporting civil, courteous exchanges, even on matters some or all of us disagree on vigorously.

I continue to conclude that Ted Nugent has provided ample basis for calling him a racist. Even one comment that explicitly and arbitrarily connects one's criticisms of another's programs and actions with that person's ethnicity as blatantly as Nugent did by referring to Obama as a "mongrel" or "subhuman" or as a "chimpanzee" is more than just a single comment, more than merely implicit racism. It's a pretty clearcut indicator that at least some part of Nugent's unhappiness with Obama is race-based. Nugent's other insults and attacks--that Obama is a socialist or that Obamacare or other programs threaten our freedom, etc., are IMNSHO, foolish, absurd, overblown, and misguided, whether racist or not.

As I noted earlier, I'm less familiar with the actions and policies of the famous or infamous Arizona sheriff, but even a judge has declared that the sheriff has acted in xenophobic ways (one can Google his name and xenophobia to find evidence of this). That is evidence--not full proof--of his xenophobia. But it's worth remembering that my primary assertion was that the GOP would lose elections and public support by being associated with racism and xenophobia. So perceptions, even if not completely accurate, are the danger to the party on which I was focused.

Regards,

Ed B.
Guido Sarducci
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February 12, 2014
Mr. Buckner, Arpaio was found guilty of "profiling", not "xenophobia". The open borders and pro-illegals, as well as liberals backing those programs have applied that name to him. the fact is that he was acting under state directives to crack down on illegal immigration. In a state with almost half a billion Latino illegals, when given an order to find illegals, where would you look?

If you worked at Kroger and the manager told you there were some bad apples in the fruit section and to get rid of them, would you first look in the bananas, or the oranges to find them? I think not.

Persecuting lawbreakers does not equate to

xenophobia, nor is it even evidence of it.
Kevin Foley
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February 12, 2014
Ed, do you find it ironic how the unidentified Sarducci has his or her panties in a wad over civil discourse but routinely refers to me as a "liberal loony" while defending Nugent's baseless, vicious, personal attacks on Obama and other administration officials?

Google it and you'll find the latest is one of many such unhinged Nugent rants.
Guido Saducci
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February 13, 2014
Foley, you have set the bar for discourse with you so low that I can not hope to emulate it.

As to defending Nugent, I have not defended him, only asked for credible evidence of your accusations. You are famous for making accusations with nothing to substantiate them. You systematically indulge in insulting people's intelligence and calling them names, not to mention labelling entire groups based don the actions of few within that group. Your overt and displayed contempt for and hatred of all things and people conservative render your writings invalid and irrelevant.

People like Ed Buckner, with whom I seldom agree, do, however, know that remaining civil is basic to communication.

You do not communicate wiht your readers. You talk at them rather to them. You throw crap at folks and then whine when it is thrown back at you.

You are quite pathetic.
EM Buckner
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February 10, 2014
OK, let's see--"Sarducci is a 'subhuman mongrel.'" I don't know Guido--whatever his actual name is--so calling him that would rightly be considered ignorant, rude, etc. But it would also be racist, regardless of Sarducci's ethnicity. My claim is that when Nugent calls anyone--especially a man known to be born of a "white" woman and a "black" man--that, it's racist.

Guido, if you disagree, explain how, please. Or, if you have some reason to believe Nugent didn't actually say that, please explain why. Otherwise, my statement stands.
Guido Sarducci
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February 10, 2014
Mr. Buckner, first of all thank you for a civl reply, something not normally received from those who follow Foley.

Okay, name calling, regardless of who does it, is, in a word, ignorant. It is a sign of low breeding and low intellect. Nugent should apologize for calling the President a "subhuman mongrel." I diagree that it is racist term. It is, however, a nasty and insulting term to apply to anyone. However, I totally disagree with categorizing someone as racist,based on one or two remarks made in the heat of a political discussion. Would you care for a rundown of the similar names President Bush was called, or Governor Palin?

You also labelled Sheriff Arpaio as a racist and a xenphobist. I submit that he is neither. Lawbreakers in his care receive the same treatment regardless of their race.

Do you have any credible evidence to back up your characterization of the Sheriff?

Again,thank you for a reasonable and congenial response.
Mike h
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February 09, 2014
First comes fear, then comes anger.

Angry people are easily led to places that do them no good .

Angry people mever realize this old tool of a political film flam artist is being used against them.

Kevin Foley speaks the truth eloquently.

Bob Barr knows the truth won't get you elected in most of Cobb county.
Kevin Foley
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February 10, 2014
Mike, it's really unfortunate that a man of Barr's intellect and stature would sink to such lows for a seat in the House. I didn't like his showboating during the Clinton impeachment, but I understood it was just bare knuckles politics, GOP style.

Barr's got the name. He doesn't need Nugent or Arpaio. So why climb into that slimy bed with them?

Thanks for the support.
Bob Johnson
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February 07, 2014
Which road does the Obama team take?? The answer of course is the low one.
EM Buckner
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February 07, 2014
Foley allows the fools to hang themselves, using their own words, and they're too dull to realize it. Now the infamous Arizona sheriff has endorsed Barr. Barr may benefit in his race from these wacko endorsements (they're more than a few wackos in the district he's running in, alas), but the Republican party nationally will be in for a long, irreversible decline if it keeps allowing the GOP to be defined by the racist, xenophobic sorts such as Ted Nugent and Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
Guido Sarducci
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February 07, 2014
Mr. Buckener, would you be so kind as to cite instances of "racist" or "xenophobic" remarks made by either Nugent or Arpaio?

You see, most intelligent people can tell the diffrence in a racist remark and one condemning lawbreakers, regardless of their race.

Before making such accustations, I suggest you reread the definitions of both terms and reflect on their true meanings before trying to apply them to people to whom they obviously do not apply.
Not persecuted
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February 07, 2014
You just stay right at home with the God-denying Dems, no problem. But mind your own denial business and stay out of my beliefs. It must be so hard for you in Cobb, being so out of step with your hatred for God, nice people and anything that reminds you of a cross.
Kevin Foley
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February 07, 2014
Ed, Mr. Barr is a highly intelligent man who knows the game he is playing.

He must really need the job.
EM Buckner
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February 07, 2014
"Father" Sarducci is, I can only hope, engaging in satirical overstatement. Nugent's racism is amply demonstrated simple with the remarks quoted in Foley's earlier column. (It's not racist to criticize any president of any race for his policies or actions; it's plainly racist to use the invective Nugent has.) The sheriff may or may not have been racist--I don't know his actions and utterances all that well. But his irrational fear of foreigners--his xenophobia--has long been on display. As to the laughable "not persecuted," he's the one who needs to back up his claims with a little evidence. I am on record as declaring that I see no good reason--no evidence or logic--to accept any beliefs in the supernatural (and I'll happily engage in public debate with anyone who disagrees), but most Democrats I know are religious. I don't agree with them on that, but labeling them all as old N.P. (wouldn't it be cool if he dared say his or her name?) has is as old as politics in this nation and as foolish. (Jefferson's opponents roundly condemned in the newspapers of the day as an atheist. He was no orthodox Christian but neither was he an atheist, alas.) Bibles and crosses--and most Christans--don't bother me at all. Bigotry and stupidity, along with freedom threatening government support for religious or irreligious choices reserved for citizens--not governments--do.
Guido Sarducci
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February 08, 2014
Just as I suspected Mr. Buckner, you cannot, or will not, cite any examples to support your name calling. Typical liberal tactic.

Your credibility is well established as an atheist and I repsect that opinion, without agreeing with it.

However, in the political arena, your credibiity dropped to zero when you called people racist and xenophobic, without a single example to back up your judgment.
Papermill gal
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February 07, 2014
Best use of this space in a long time: print letters critical of Kevin Foley.

I love this. Can we dedicate these column inches in the future to opinions of Foley's poor political acumen and writing?
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