Immigrant students seek Georgia’s in-state tuition rates
by Kate Brumback
December 06, 2013 12:08 AM | 223137 views | 344 344 comments | 71 71 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DECATUR — A judge said Thursday that he needs more information and time to decide the case of a group of young people who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children and want the Georgia university system to grant them in-state tuition.

The roughly three dozen young immigrants have been granted temporary permission to stay in the U.S. under an Obama administration policy introduced last year. They filed a lawsuit in August asking a judge to instruct the university system’s Board of Regents to allow them to qualify for in-state tuition.

At a hearing Thursday, DeKalb County Superior Court Judge Mark Anthony Scott heard arguments on the state’s request to move the case to Fulton County Superior Court because that’s where the Board of Regents is located. Charles Kuck, a lawyer for the young immigrants, argued that the board can be sued in any county where it has a school.

Scott said the arguments were complex and asked both lawyers to submit an additional filing within 60 days.

The Board of Regents has repeatedly said it does not comment on pending litigation.

The Georgia university system requires any student seeking in-state status for tuition purposes to provide verification of “lawful presence” in the U.S. The Regents have said students with temporary permission to stay under the new program — known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals or DACA — do not meet that requirement. But the Regents’ policy does not define “lawful presence,” the lawsuit says.

The program allows young people brought to the U.S. illegally as children to obtain work permits for two years if they meet certain requirements. The Department of Homeland Security considers people who have qualified for the program to be lawfully present, according to a fact sheet on the website of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

A group of more than 20 people gathered in front of the courthouse before the hearing for a news conference.

Miguel Angel Martinez Olvera, 19, was brought to the U.S. illegally from Mexico when he was 3 and is a plaintiff in the lawsuit. He wants to go to one of the state’s technical schools to be a paramedic or nurse but can’t afford to pay out-of-state tuition, he said.

“We are here to make a contribution to this country,” he said.

Raymond Partolan, who was born in the Philippines, was brought to the U.S. legally when he was a year old. His father had a skilled worker visa and he and his mother had dependent visas, but the family lost legal status when Partolan was in fifth grade because his father couldn’t pass an English competency test, he said.

The 20-year-old is a junior majoring in political science and Spanish at Mercer University, a private school that gave him a full scholarship. But he said it’s important to him to fight for in-state tuition for other young people in the immigrant community who haven’t been as fortunate as he has. That’s ultimately what he wants to do professionally, he said. He plans to go to law school to become an immigration lawyer.

“There’s definitely an injustice going on here,” he said. “There’s definitely something that needs to be corrected.”

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Lib in Cobb
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December 14, 2013
Over 340 comments. I didn't read them all, but I can see the majority of those read are opposed to these young people staying here under any circumstances.

I will ask those who posted, considering of course that the majority will claim to be christian and they hold the bible to be proof of all things good. What would Jesus do?

The right wing whistle nut crowd wants all of the undocumented to go home. OK, how would you round up 12 million people and send them all back? No answers, I will guess. Why no answers, because it is a logistical impossibility. The wingers want these folks to become taxpayers. Newsflash for all concerned, they do pay taxes. They pay sales tax, they pay property tax, they pay income tax if they are working under an assumed identity, they just don't file a return, so they don't get any kind of a refund. You're right if they work under the table, they don't pay any income tax. Many Americans at one time or another have worked under the table. I have, many times. OK, I have broken the law, arrest me. It's not the only law I am guilty of breaking.

The GOP is in trouble politically, deep trouble and those who have posted the usual "go back to where you come from" comments are part of the problem.

I have met many undocumented aliens, I have found all to be honest and hard working, all they wish to do is to work and support their families. Yes, of course not all are good people, there are some who have committed horrible crimes, just like any other cross section of the population.

The easiest way to solve this problem is to streamline the legalization system and permit those who were brought here as children to become citizens as fast as possible.
anonymous
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December 11, 2013
Seems to me that their case should be against their parents for illegally bringing them here.

In short, you need to go back to your home country and start the process off correctly like those before you.

You don't get to jump ahead of the legal immigrants your parents brought you here illegally.
go home
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December 10, 2013
First of all, where in the Constitution does it allow for a president or the bureaucracies he oversees to write laws? It doesn't.

Also, since when is going to school equate with getting a work permit?

Judge Scott has an easy decision here. The illegals aren't seeking work permits so their arguments are null and void. Then ship them back to their home country. I've lost all sympathy for these criminals.
NoIllegals
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December 10, 2013
These ILLEGAL immigrants are NOT citizens in any sense of the word. Therefore, they DO NOT have legal standing to sue for something that is reserved for citizens. The judge needs to rule that these illegals don't have standing to bring suite. I don't care what the liberals call these law breaking individuals.....they are breaking the law being in this country.
shimmergirl88
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June 30, 2014
America is becoming a third world country because too many illegals come here. They create a significant amount of crime, poverty, and filth. I will put that aside and also concur that they suck off welfare, procreate more useless people of their ilk, and suck up free medical care. No American wants you here except to visit and put money into the tourism marketplace. Please leave and go the correct way if you want to come here.
eddie carl paul
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December 09, 2013
DEPORT ALL THE ILLEGALS INCLUDING OBAMA BEFORE THE TAKE OVER AMERICA. LET THE PAY OUT OF STATE TUITION RATES. THE SPEAK ENGLISH VERY WELL, THE ILLEGALS PLAY STUPID SO THEY CAN COLLECT ALL THE PERKS(WELFARE, HOSPITALS ETC.). COME ON America and wake up.
Lib in Cobb
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December 14, 2013
@Eddie: President Obama is a citizen. He provided his long form birth certificate. That birth certificate was validated by the State of Hawaii. You just can't stand the idea that a liberal, black man with a Muslim name dared to become and remain president by soundly beating the best the GOP had. I will add, McCain and Mittens was the best the GOP had. That's a laugh.
eddie paul
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December 09, 2013
I PAID FOR MY SON TUITION TO GO TO UGA AND I AM AN AMERICAN. HOW DO ILLEGALS HAVE THE BALLS AND PAY NO TAXES USE OUR HOSPITAL AND WELFARE TO GET MONEY. The roughly three dozen young immigrants have been granted temporary permission to stay in the U.S. under an Obama administration policy introduced last year. They filed a lawsuit in August asking a judge to instruct the university system’s Board of Regents to allow them to qualify for in-state tuition. Let Obama take the money out of his own pocket to pay. LET THE ILLEGALS PAY OUT OF STATE TUITION. THE ILLEGALS SEND MONEY BACK TO MEXICO OR OTHER COUNTRIES. SEND THEM BACK PERMANTELEY. GOD BLESS MY AMERICA AND THE HELL OF ILLEGALS

Anti-illegal
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December 08, 2013
There's an injustice going on alright. The injustice is to the American people who have to pay for the needs and wants of these criminals. That's what illegal is, after all. The injustice is also to those who go to the trouble to enter this country legally and end up in line behind the illegals...so sad!
eebedah
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December 09, 2013
You are so right
anonymous
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December 08, 2013
You are an illegal, which means you have no status. Illegal has always been illegal and should always be that way. Round up the whole damn family and drive them to the border telling them if they come back they will be shot on site,
RichardNtexas
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December 08, 2013
An injustice is breaking the law in the first place
jabusse
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December 08, 2013
California comes to Georgia. !Bienvenidos! This is indeed the fault of Bush 1. He should have been routing them out and sending them home from the start. But he didn't. Clinton and Bush 2 needed the labor and Obama is just using them to harm american citizens, which is his normal hateful conduct.

I vote their tuition comes in the form of a one way bus ticket to their country of origin. To do otherwise degrades all the immigrants who played by the rules and American citizens who believe in the rule of law.
nohope
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December 08, 2013
Arnold J. Toynbee: "Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."
Jay See
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December 08, 2013
Really a Judge Needs more information for this? WTH? They are Illegal send them back home where they came from.....that's the law ENFORCE THE LAWS! They enforce all the other laws that they have why aren't they enforcing these immigration laws we have on the books? BASTARDS!
Zeunus
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December 08, 2013
To the people trying to become citizens most of us do not have an issue. I know these people were brought here as kids, now they are adults it is almost insulting that they can not get citizenship done. Its them being lazy, sorry to call a spade a spade. My wife went through the process to become a citizen, so can they first before they get their hand out
Theodore Roosevelt
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December 08, 2013
When will Americans - white, black, Asian, and American Indian - start banding together and demand ACCOUNTABILITY?

We are losing this country CULTURALLY, ECONOMICALLY, POLITICALLY, AND SPIRITUALLY. The elites are doing what they please. The Socialist politicians want the

VOTES to remain in power. The CEO's and stockholders want the cheap labor for maximum PROFITS.

WE ARE BECOMING A 3RD WORLD NATION!

IT IS TIME TO SEAL THE SOUTHERN BORDER BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY AND START IMPRISONING THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOWING THIS INVASION, INCLUDING THE BUSINESSMEN WHO EMPLOY ILLEGALS!!!

NEXT STEP - DEPORT, DEPORT, DEPORT !!!!

IF MEXICO SHOWS ITS ARROGANCE BY MAKING A TANTRUM AND OPENLY BEING HOSTILE, THEN I SAY IT IS TIME FOR AMERICA TO PERMANENTLY PUT MEXICO IN ITS PLACE!!!
dAN hIGGINS
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December 08, 2013
No !!!

You don't get Taxpayer assistance from people from the USA for people who come here to get a education.

In matter of fact they should pay double.
Valhallamark1
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December 08, 2013
Hey judge tell the kiddos to have their parents bring you their W-2's for their time in the US. If not then they got all the free education they get by going to public schools which the taxpayers have already graciously payed for.
anonymous
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December 08, 2013
The illegal immigrants are not asking for tuition to be payed for them they just want to pay the same tuition rates that legal Americans pay. The cost for an international student is 2-3 times more expensive than that of the average person, they need to pay additional cost that other student's do not need to pay like insurance. They are not asking to be "FEED" by anyone. The ignorance of most people is astounding...read the full article before making assumptions.
daveyy
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December 09, 2013
You're wrong. Kids who come from in-state are given in-state tuition rates based on the assumption that property taxes, income taxes, and assoorted other taxes, which colleges and universities get a share of, are paid by the families over time, be it a year or greater. It is assumed that out-of-state people do not pay these taxes within the state. Thus, illegals are expecting the university and the state for a hand out because most illegals do not put as much revenue back into the state.
Mdh330
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December 08, 2013


Why can't OUR "leaders" deport the illegals like Saudi Arabia!?!?!

OUR "leaders" won't even TALK about deporting the illegals and enforcing the very laws THEY made !!

OUR "leaders" are corrupt criminals who need to be brought to Justice.
Aleric
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December 08, 2013
Liberals are selling our country little by little to people who don't even care about their home country. Do you think they are going to take care of this one any better??
Jim Gregory
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December 08, 2013
Because we presently spend far more than we take in, one could reason that every additional expense must be handled by loans from abroad.

With that in mind, would you borrow money from China to take care of this expense?
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