Foley twisted Scripture about charity
November 08, 2013 12:09 AM | 1042 views | 17 17 comments | 14 14 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DEAR EDITOR:

MDJ columnist Kevin Foley is twisting Scripture to fit his political narrative. In his Oct. 25 column, he attacks Christian leaders for not supporting the expansion of government health care programs. His erroneous argument — which is a favorite of the left — is that Christians should support these programs because they carry out Jesus’ command to take care of the poor and sick.

While this may be the liberal view of taking care of “the least of these,” I believe Jesus had something very different in mind when He gave us that command. Jesus commanded us to love our neighbor. That does not mean to send our money to a bloated and impersonal bureaucracy and hope for the best. It means that when we encounter someone in need WE, as individuals, invest our personal time and money in that person developing a personal relationship so we can help that person where they need it the most.

Large government programs tend to work in the opposite direction — they make us complacent about the plight of the sick and the poor because we rationalize that we “gave at the office” (i.e., via taxes) and so we don’t do that which may be uncomfortable for us, yet the very thing Jesus most wanted us to do — personally invest ourselves with the most needy in our society.

Yes, we as Christians need to do more to take care of the sick and the poor. And our Christian leaders need to be very vocal about our need to do so. Jesus commands us to love our neighbor, not to love programs that cannot do anywhere near as much for someone as our personal involvement with them can.

Dan Valentine

Marietta
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November 10, 2013
Conservative Christians are all for the poor, the sick, the homeless and the unborn as long as it doesn't cost them anything. As long as they can sit in their padded pews for one hour a week and feel good about themselves they're fine. They are selfish heartless people who believe that if you deny people help you are helping them, but you are not doing what Jesus taught!
Lib in Cobb
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November 08, 2013
This just in.

US House Rep. Doug Lamalfa (R. CA)voted to cut food stamps to the needy because the bible doesn't say the government should feed the poor. His family rice farm has received over $5 million in farm subsidies. Does the bible say anything about that?

source: Americans Against The Republican Party and Living Blue in a Red State
anonymous
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November 09, 2013
This just in: democrats advertise SNAP in Mexico to attract illegal aliens to build their base of illegal voters so they can control every election from here to the imminent demise of the country. Democrats want one world order, a communistic society where individual achievement is tamped down and the collective worship of a statist leader is an accepted norm. Tyranny over the people, the Constitution dead. Before this happens, American patriots will rise up and guess what...it's not going to be pretty.
Lib in Cobb
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November 10, 2013
@Anonymous: Source please.
Kevin Foley
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November 08, 2013
Mr. Valentine presumes to know what Jesus "really" meant to justify a political opinion. Christians must vote ALL of their values not just those they agree with.

As I said to today's other letter writer, do you think HE cared HOW we care for the least of these? He just wants it done.
Dan Valentine
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November 10, 2013
Kevin,

First, you are the one that originally wrote the article saying Christians leaders should be preaching your political views - so let's not twist things around.

Next, yes Jesus ABSOLUTELY cares how we take care of the poor. You are missing the whole point of "love your neighbor" (part of His greatest commandment, by the way...)with your view we don't get personally involved with them. And, as I said, pushing the whole responsibility off on the government actually gets us away from focusing our lives where Jesus wants us to focus.
Kevin Foley
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November 13, 2013
Mr. Valentine, I never said Christian leaders should teach my political beliefs. I said they should practice all their religious beliefs, not just the ones that are convenient.

And how could you possibly be "personally involved" with all 650,000 poor, uninsured Georgians? They can only get healthcare if they know Dan Valentine?

Lib in Cobb
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November 08, 2013
@Dan: You don't want to send tax dollars to a bloated government. I don't want your church to have a tax free ride, where a portion of my tax dollars go to support your religion. Churches and houses of worship should be viewed as a business, then you can deduct those dollars spent on charitable efforts. Just how much time does your church spend on feeding the hungry or providing a warm place to sleep for the homeless? Charitable efforts don't include your minister preaching from the pulpit that, "You are all sinners and you are going to burn, unless you get right with jesus". Yes, I have heard it, many years ago before I became a recovering christian and embraced atheism.
anonymous
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November 08, 2013
Please explain how your tax dollars go to support a religion.
Lib in Cobb
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November 10, 2013
@anonymous: It's simple accounting, you figure it out.
Dan Valentine
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November 10, 2013
First, I would be interested in your definition of a business is since you seem to think the churches are businesses.

Next, I won't ague that we, as Christians do not spend enough time caring for the needy. This is one of my advocacies both within my church and in my political discussions since I believe this is how Jesus wanted us to do it.

Finally, you made the point that preachers are always telling us to "get right with Jesus" I agree. But what do you suppose that really means?

His Greatest Commandment tells us to "Love our neighbor" so I believe that this what it means to get right with Jesus.
anonymous
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November 10, 2013
@ Lib

No, you made the claim that - your - taxes go to support a religion. Now you explain - which of your tax dollars go to a religion. You've said this in several posts so now explain. Which of your taxes go to support a religion. Name the tax and name the religion.
Guido Sarducci
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November 11, 2013
Typical response, Lib. you can't answer the question so you tell the asker to figure it out.

I kinda figured you were an atheist. Too bad. you guys don't have any really good songs, and you only have one holiday a year, April first.

BTW, I don't want my tax dollars spent supporting atheism.
Lib in Cobb
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November 12, 2013
@Guido and anonymous: I am running the risk of being redundant, but it seems there is a need.

FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES! Between you two brain surgeons you might get close to a reasonable answer.

@dan: My point is, not all activities within any house of worship are charitable efforts. Some frothing at the mouth minister or rabbi or mullah screaming about sin is not charity.

Many christians do not love thy neighbor. Most churches do not want the LGBT community involved in their congregation. The LGBT community is our neighbors. You guys pick and chose who you consider to be neighbors.
anonymous
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November 12, 2013
@ Lib

There is nothing for us to figure out. YOU made the claim that your taxes go to support religion. So, name the tax and name the religion that those taxes support. Simple, this is your contention so support your contention with - FACTS. Tell us the facts. Just saying that your taxes support religion is not enough. You need to offer up proof, evidence. Otherwise, your comment is just your non-fact based opinion or a fantasy to support your hatred of religion.
Lib in Cobb
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November 13, 2013
@Anonymous: You know as well as I do, that houses of worship, as long as they qualify, get a free ride. No matter I write here you will disagree.

I am done with you on this matter.

You never gave me a source for your above comment involving SNAP in Mexico.
Lib in Cobb
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November 13, 2013
@guido: First, I am not certain that the atheist churches have qualified for the free ride. The formation of atheist churches is rather new compared to religious based houses of worship. If atheist churches were to receive the free ride, I would oppose that also. If atheist churches do get a free ride, I will say that if I have to pay for yours, you have to pay for ours. If there was an atheist church nearby, I would not attend.
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