Region, Cobb give TSPLOST a resounding thumbs down
by Jon Gillooly
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There’s no doubt about which way A.J. Warren of east Cobb, left, cast her vote Tuesday on the proposed transportation tax. Meanwhile, pro-tax supporters Mary Lou Stephens with the Town Center Area CID and lobbyist Michael Paris take the news in stride. <br> Photo by Nathan Self
There’s no doubt about which way A.J. Warren of east Cobb, left, cast her vote Tuesday on the proposed transportation tax. Meanwhile, pro-tax supporters Mary Lou Stephens with the Town Center Area CID and lobbyist Michael Paris take the news in stride.
Photo by Nathan Self
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Pro-tax supporters Mary Lou Stephens with the Town Center Area CID and lobbyist Michael Paris take the news in stride. <br> Photo by Laura Moon
Pro-tax supporters Mary Lou Stephens with the Town Center Area CID and lobbyist Michael Paris take the news in stride.
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MARIETTA — Despite a multimillion-dollar advertising blitz and predictions of disaster if it failed, voters in Cobb and the 10-county metro region firmly rejected the proposed $8.5 billion tax increase for transportation known as TSPLOST on Tuesday.

Cobb rejected the tax with 85,412 votes against it — 69 percent — and 38,703 votes for it — 31 percent.

Across the 10-county region, voters rejected the tax with 415,526 ‘no’ votes — 63 percent — and 248,319 ‘yes’ votes — 37 percent.

County Chairman Tim Lee, who chose Cobb’s project list, said he didn’t know what would happen at the ballot box.

“I thought it would be closer, but it is what it is,” Lee said. “My reaction is that this was an issue put out in front of the people as to whether or not the

solution was one that they believed solved the problem that’s in front of us, which is real. What we need to do now is regroup, get together and continue to work to identify a solution for the problem that’s in front of us and that’s the transportation bottlenecks that exist. My point is this: this solution was presented by the legislators and the community at large, it was decided the community did not like the solution, and all that means is that we need to continue to work harder to promote a solution that could be agreeable to the folks out there.”

TSPLOST opponent Ron Sifen of Vinings, who campaigned hard against the tax, said he was pleased with the outcome.

“Cobb County voters have spoken and the Atlanta region has spoken,” Sifen said. “21 politicians failed to deliver a projects list that addressed the region’s transportation needs.”

Sifen said the TSPLOST tax dollars were supposed to go toward reducing traffic congestion.

“Pro-TSPLOST ads claimed people would have more time with their families,” Sifen said. “Voters figured out that the pro-TSPLOST hype was false, and that too much of the money was going to benefit special interests but would not reduce traffic congestion.”

The General Assembly placed 21 politicians in a room to decide the project list, Sifen said.

“21 politicians made political decisions that were bad transportation decisions. I urge the Legislature to recognize this aspect of what went wrong and fix it. Any Plan B needs to start with criteria that requires the money in the Atlanta region to be spent on projects that are cost-effective and will effectively reduce traffic congestion.”

TSPLOST cheerleader Tad Leithead, who chairs the Atlanta Regional Commission and Cumberland Community Improvement District, said one of the biggest challenges for the campaign was the unexpected passion of the opposition.

“I was surprised at the level of energy behind the opposition, particularly because much of the opposition was mounted by elected officials who originally supported the concept,” Leithead said.

Nearly all of the Republicans in the Cobb Legislative Delegation said they planned to vote no on the TSPLOST, with the exception of state Rep. Sharon Cooper (R-east Cobb), who said she “still believes in the privacy of the ballot box” and would not announce whether she’s “for or against something just because it’s the politically expedient thing to do.”

Leithead said opponents thought the process was a good one, but that the project list itself didn’t properly address the region’s needs.

“I do take it at face value that they believe in many cases that it’s too heavy on transit,” Leithead said. “Having said that, I believe this is an excellent project list, that transit is an extremely necessary component. (Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reid) said at (a Monday morning press conference) that this is a very good balance between a $3 billion investment in transit and $3 billion investment in roads, and so everybody got an incremental investment in what was important to them and that it’s very balanced, and I agree with all of that, so I think it’s a little bit of a mystery to me.”

The primary factor of the TSPLOST’s defeat was the anti-tax sentiment spurred by the economic downtown, Leithead said.

“We’re in an environment where people’s economic situation is in some danger, at some risk, and therefore a vote to increase taxes at this point was not looked upon favorably,” he said.

TSPLOST supporter and Atlanta Business Chronicle publisher Ed Baker touched on this point recently when he said, “If this had been 10 years ago ... when the economy was booming and everything was wonderful, and we were lighting our cigars with $5 bills, we wouldn’t be having this big discussion.”

Leithead said there was also some concern that the funds would not be spent as advertised, a position he completely rejects, but said “trust in government is at an all-time low, and some people simply don’t trust the process.”

Lee said there wasn’t one reason for the TSPLOST’s defeat.

“There’s so many reasons that I’ve heard over the last months why individuals don’t like it from they don’t like the list, they don’t like the fact that even if we vote against it and it wins in the region that we have to be a part of it,” Lee said. “Others just don’t like it because it’s a tax. If you got a faction here that doesn’t like it because it’s a tax, and a group over here doesn’t like it because the list, a group over here doesn’t like it because it doesn’t have the governance, you add all those up you now get a majority. Each on their own wouldn’t have won.”

Yet Lee said he does not take it as a personal rebuke that the TSPLOST was rejected.

“I put the list together with Mark Mathews and the other elected officials in the region and what we thought was best for the future of Cobb County based on what we know, what I know, what I’ve studied as it relates to the existing studies, transportation trends, commute habits, businesses and what they’ve told me they want in considering whether to move, whether to grow and whether to move out, I took all that into consideration in putting the list together,” Lee said. “If the community at large is not ready to move in that direction, as a leader I need to be responsive to that and reorganize and continue to come up with ways to address the transportation problems in the region. I don’t think anyone can argue there is a issue. What we’re debating and having a very, very good debate on is what’s the best way to solve it. So if this solution fails then I’m not going to sit back and say ‘that’s a personal attack,’” Lee said prior to the final results coming in Tuesday evening. “I’m going to say ‘OK that issue failed. Now we have to hunker down, pull our boot straps up and look at another issue and address the issue because the issue’s got to be resolved.’”

State Sen. Lindsey Tippins (R-west Cobb), who was elected to office after the TSPLOST legislation was approved, but who came out against the project list, said voters didn’t believe the benefits outweighed the cost.

Success of a voter-approved tax initiative comes from whether voters believe at the end of the taxing period they’ll be better off than they were to start with, Tippins said. It also comes from whether they believe they’re getting close to a dollar’s worth of benefits to a dollar’s worth of tax.

Then there was the largest line item on Cobb’s project list chosen by Lee and Mathews.

“The ambiguity of the bus rapid transit piece with it not being able to define what it is or give it any conclusion whatsoever until after the alternatives analysis study comes back … those kinds of unknowns are what would cost any initiative voter support,” Tippins said.

Tippins is referring to the $689 million earmarked for “enhanced premium transit service,” from Acworth to the MARTA Arts Center Station in Midtown, which Lee said would have been used for bus rapid transit and may have been upgraded to light rail with federal funding.

Any time a project list is placed before voters, it must be clearly defined, and the TSPLOST initiative mostly was, Tippins said.

“But speaking specifically of Cobb County, the biggest project in Cobb County, a $689 million price tag which would be about 70 percent of what Cobb County would yield out of it, I think, is a big question mark,” Tippins said. “It could be bus rapid transit. It could be light rail and nobody knows, and even if it’s bus rapid transit what it’s going to be is not very clear as to what the expectation would be.”

That the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority would make the final determination on what the end product would look like because it was a transit project did not build confidence, Tippins said.

“There’s just a huge — I don’t know if there is a distrust or a mistrust, but I think certainly an uneasiness — when government fails to clearly state what a taxing initiative is going to be,” Tippins said prior to the final votes coming in. “This is new, obviously it’s 10 counties involved in this, but I think specifically with Cobb the anxiety level is pretty high because it’s pretty short on specifics and details.”

Mayor Steve Tumlin spoke about the anti-tax, anti-government sentiment in Cobb.

“There’s no economic data that makes us feel good, and they feel like they’re paying enough tax as it is now,” said Tumlin, who neither endorsed nor opposed the tax.

“Secondly, I think most of the people I talk to if they’re voting against it would rather have seen more road work than rail work. How do you get from my neighborhood to downtown Atlanta or to Norcross? And I think they would have loved to have seen more interchanges, asphalt, as opposed to rail or bus lines. I think we as a society still love our cars and not getting into some of the issues that were raised about MARTA, I can’t really address those, but I think we like our cars so much we want to be able to move in our cars to get to our jobs and destinations.”

The tax would have collected $7.2 billion in the 10-county metro area. Of that amount, $6.14 billion worth of projects were chosen by the Atlanta Regional Roundtable. The remaining 15 percent, or $1.1 billion, would have been chosen at the local level.

Cobb’s portion of the 85 percent was $984 million, and Cobb’s portion of the 15 percent was $178 million.

Factoring in inflation, the total collection for the 10-county area rises to $8.5 billion, Atlanta Regional Commission spokesman Jim Jaquish said.

The TSPLOST campaign took the form of two efforts. One was the “education” side led by developer Bob Voyles and lobbyist Michael Paris called the Metro Atlanta Voter Education Network, which raised $2.1 million largely funded by CIDs along with other groups like WellStar Health System.

Then there was the advocacy arm of the campaign, Citizens for Transportation Mobility, chaired by Post Properties CEO Dave Stockert, which raised about $6.5 million, Leithead said.

Some said the TSPLOST supporters did themselves no favors by the tactics used. For instance, Chris Leinberger with the Washington, D.C.-based Brookings Institution chided metro Atlanta for “racializing” MARTA. Leinberger also said the goal of having a rail system is not for traffic relief, but for economic development.

Lee also resorted to name calling, referring to TSPLOST opponents as spoiled brats and in some cases even racists.

Baker warned that he was keeping a list of Republican lawmakers who opposed the tax increase and that they would be held accountable “in a different way than before” for undermining the proposed tax’s importance.

Stockert attempted to sell the tax by saying, “We don’t have quite the same sex appeal that we once did, and we’ve got to get it back.”

Stockert moreover scoffed at lawmakers who suggested there was a better way of doing things, calling them “absolutely naïve.”

That comment brought a response from state Rep. Rich Golick (R-Smyrna), who warned that it was hardly wise to insult the very lawmakers you would need on your side in the future if the tax proposal went down in flames.

Cobb Chamber CEO David Connell went so far as to shrilly declare that the failure to pass the TSPLOST would be “the worst thing that ever happened to Atlanta.”

And Paul Bennecke, founder of Red Clay Strategies, attempted to guilt opponents into supporting the tax, saying, “Shame on you for being so selfish.”

Some voters were also outraged by the way Secretary of State Brian Kemp worded the ballot. The anti-TSPLOST Transportation Leadership Coalition hired Atlanta attorney Pitts Carr to challenge what the group believes is biased language Kemp wrote on the ballot.

The ballot language raising the ire of the anti-tax group is a preamble that says the TSPLOST “provides for local transportation projects to create jobs and reduce traffic congestion with citizen oversight.”

“It is very improper for anyone to use a ballot for advocacy, and this is like having a billboard in support of Referendum 1 right on the ballot,” Carr said.

Now that the tax has been voted down, Leithead said the question becomes what happens next.

“We continue to move forward,” Leithead said. “We have the Plan 2040, the $7.4 billion TIP investment that we made over the next six years, and if I understand correctly the legislators who have opposed this have said they would bring forward almost immediately a new plan for transportation investment here in the region, so I would look forward to seeing that plan and hope that we could in future years put something in place that would allow us to address this issue, but right now I don’t know exactly what that solution would look like or exactly what it would be.”
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u CasH
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August 10, 2012
LEE and MATTHEWS tried to cash in big with this tsplost con--they are not happy.
DiscustedAtThemAll
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August 01, 2012
How many homes/condos/apartments could we build inside the perimeter to reduce all of these cars on the roads for the 8.5 billion that they wanted to spend. I'm guessing 40,000 or so to take 60,000 cars or more off the road. Bunch of new condos in the Cumberland/Vinings Area would have people screaming for a train before long....
Do Your Job
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August 01, 2012
This vote was not about people not wanting a tax increase. It is about sending a message to those decision makers that they need to plan better.  Asking to fix years of poor planning, by allowing rapid urban sprawl without thinking of the consequences is not a reason to increase taxes.  These projects were advertised as traffic congestion relief, and that was just not true.  (ie, Air Traffic Control tower in Cobb County)

Throwing money at issues is not a solution.  Better leadership and planning is needed.  We cannot continue to give these leaders money without results.   

Do Your Job!
TSPLOST lost
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August 01, 2012
because people saw that ALL the supporters were

1. looking for ways to benefit from the tax/stimulus that it was.

2. the project list for COBB was so horrendous that LEE and MATTHEWS must have had ulterior motives in hatching it.

3. socialism doesn't work

Long Driver
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August 01, 2012
Another TSPLOST referendum bites the dust!
unzipped
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August 01, 2012
One only needs to know the "operatives" who ran the pro-TSPLOST campaign on behalf of the Governor, Atlanta's Mayor, and the Metro Chamber to understand why it went down in flames. Arrogance does not even begin to describe their heavy-handed management and wasteful spending. The animated commercials were horrible and did not connect with the public, but the out-of-town ad agency was chosen by these geniu$e$ and they were unwilling to listen to advice from locals in the know until it was too late. They rejected local, grass roots organizing (the method used to defeat them) in favor of $pending million$ on "electioneering"---robocalls, pollsters, surveys, and appearances by some of the worst speakers ever in front of insulated business groups. Their message was way more about "creating jobs" than fixing the average guy's commute, and the public interpreted "creating jobs" as sending their tax dollars to big busine$$. It is hard to believe that the Republicans continue to rule Georgia given these totally inept staffers.
West Cobb Farmer
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August 01, 2012
As we discuss TSPLOST's failure, and the reasons for TSPLOST's failure, we should not forget that TSPLOST exposed the true colors of our community leadership. Without going into great detail, they've called us names, insulted us, insulted our intelligence, they've brought in outsiders who talked down to us, called us names and insulted us. This is how our Leadership led, period.

Before Plan B we need Plan L... a new plan for Leadership. We need new state leadership, we need new county leadership, we need a new Chamber of Commerce, we need a new Cumberland CID and a new Town Center CID. The region needs a new ARC. We need leaders who have a new vision for Georgia instead of the current gang who is anchored in a past that was driven by real estate, development and sprawl.
SG68
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August 01, 2012
@ West Cobb Farmer

You have hit the mark with this arrogant leadership issue that your touched on.

There is a huge difference in selfless, community spirited leadership and self serving, ambitious, what's in it for me leadership.

I think we have been subjected to the latter example for the last several years.

The Nation, Georgia, Atlanta and Cobb County have been fortunate to have had genuine leader in the past that put their community and their neighbors ahead of their own selfish aspirations (i.e. Ronald Reagan, Zell Miller, William Hartsfield, Sam Massell, Andrew Young, Earnest Barrett etc.).

Now we have the likes of Barack Obama, Nathan Deal, Kasim Reed, Tad Leithead and Tim Lee leading us down a road to nowhere.

Over the last few years they have managed to effectively destroy any trust or faith that the citizens might have had in our political and community leaders.

That's what you really saw in the wholesale rejection of this TSPLOST.

It was more than a rejection of faux transportation solutions

they tried to foist on us with slick advertising, half truths and misleading propaganda.

It was a dramatic demonstration of the voters of our mistrust of our current crop of leaders and resounding rejection of their failed leadership.

You are right West Cobb Farmer there needs to be a sea change in the current leadership before we are able to move forward.
Kennesaw Voter
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August 01, 2012
Andrew Young did absolutely nothing for the city of Atlanta as Mayor...he has just be living off his civil rights days. He was only stroking his ego when he was Mayor and left the sewers to fail and city workers sleeping and urinating in city parks (that was caught on tv) and then said...oh, those videos are not showing the truth of what they were doing...Best day for Atlanta was when he left office.
SG68
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August 02, 2012
@ Kennesaw Voter

We will just have to agree to disagree on Andrew Young's contributions.

At least he didn't abuse the City of Atlanta like Maynard jackson, Bill Campbell, Shirley Franklin and now Kasim Reed.

That in and of itself qualifies as a significant accomplishment to me.
Butter Bean
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August 01, 2012
We got um' on the run now boys & girls - from the governor's office on down. Now, lets keep the pressure on and let every dang one of um' know the status quo is over - we're in charge now.
StillStuck
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August 01, 2012
Before you throw too big a party, you may want to take a look at the ajc and the governor's current plan. He doesn't sound like a man on the run - he is a man with a plan that has nothing in it for Cobb County. You are certainly not in charge now. He has no desire to develop another roundtable. He will not pursue another referendum. He is simply going to use his executive authority to set the transporation priorities for the entire state. He has two big ticket items - the Port of Savannah and I-285@GA 400...the rest will be scraps spent on projects he prioritizes.

Where is your power in that? How much do you think he will want to spend in counties that defeated his TSPLOST.

This sounds alot mor elike status quo than you may want to accept butter bean...good luck getting transporation funding in this county for the next few years.
Mike O. Bedenbaugh
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August 01, 2012
We already have two (RAPID) bus systems running from Acworth to Mid town Atlanta stuck in I-75 traffic in the form of GRTA and CCT. The problem with these is there is no way to get riders to the stations (pick-up points) from their home areas with out their cars tieing up local roads. There needs to be more bus routes along all the main and sub-main roads to get people to the stations and major shopping and business areas. This means bus routes into neighbor- hoods main streets such as Upper and Lower Roswell Rds. and Bells Ferry and Canton Rds. and etc.,etc. all over the county; especially where people may not have cars to ride to work or shop. Thinking only of I-75, I-285 and Cobb Pkwy. (US-41) traffic will not do it. Van pooling still will help take around 10 cars off the roads.
Gringo Bandito
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August 01, 2012
There used to be a lot more CCT lines running than there are today, but nobody used them. The whole "If you build it, they will come" idea just doesn't work for public transportation in Atlanta. It doesn't exist because people don't want it, and they don't want to be burdened with the cost of running bus lines that nobody uses.
SG68
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August 01, 2012
OK I have been trying not to gloat about the resounding defeat of this TSPLOST debacle in Atlanta and particularly in Cobb County

But I just can't help myself.

I have one question.

Where is THE TRUTH and his/her know-it-all, arrogant and misleading comments now!!!

Sorry. Like I said I just couldn't help myself.
one eye
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August 01, 2012
Maybe there is some truth to David and Goliath.



The project list is dead but the law is still on the books, there is still work to be done. With the size of this defeat perhaps politicians will see the hand writing on the wall and be more incline to do their job in the next session and kill HB277.

The Transportation Leadership Collation in four months took down a well organized and financed group of the politically connected with the Traffic Truth. Yea Team!

The taxpayers of the region should be thankful this group of volunteers came together on their behalf and put in the hours it took to get the truth to the people.

I think I will leave my pretty blue Vote No sign up a little while longer as a reminder to the yes crowd that there is a new sheriff in town!

JDTBQ
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August 01, 2012
Despite a 7/31 election (prime summer vacation time) TSPLOST was defeated 70/30, thanks in part to grass-roots campaigning.

On a national level, we're 70/30 on the Affordable Care Act, with grass-roots campaigning ramping up for November.

Sounds to me like We the People are finally making our voices heard.

Now if we could just do something about Tim Lee...
Mike Jones
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August 01, 2012
Is that the same Tim Lee who just raised property taxes on me?....
What the!?
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August 01, 2012
Cobb had a chance in '65 to participate in MARTA but the referendum to join failed. Then Clayton and Gwinnett rejected a 1% sales tax to help fund MARTA despite having authorized participation in the system 6 years earlier.

Now here we all are 45 years later wishing we had some good ideas for relieving congestion yet grateful that we can use MARTA to get to the airport or a sporting event.

There were 2 stubs built for MARTA rail to Clayton and Cobb. They are still sitting there. Waiting.

Watcher...
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August 01, 2012
I predict that the State will take control of MARTA, in the relatively near future!
Gringo Bandito
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August 01, 2012
@Watcher - The state will take over the airport before it takes over MARTA. Although, it absolutely should take over the airport.
anonymous
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August 02, 2012
a private company needs to take control of MARTA and clean house of the over paid good old boys there. Make it live by profit and make it a mode people want to use
anonymous
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August 01, 2012
Well done, Atlanta. We just showed every major U.S. and international corporation we don't want them to bring any jobs here.
TIC
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August 01, 2012
Actually we showed them that the citizens of Atlanta are bright enough not to fall for a taxpayer scam.

The chamber lies about companies avoiding Atlanta because of the traffic issues was just another piece of misinformation to try to get us to fall for the TSPLOST boondoggle.

Hopefully that will keep the bad companies expecting taxpayer handouts away and impress the quality companies who are true to the American business model to locate here.
one eye
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August 01, 2012
How employees get to work in not a major consideration for locating anywhere. Quality of life, tax breaks and available land are of the front burner. Caterpillar, Baxter, Clarks, Toyota and Sany brought thousands of jobs to places that will never have mass transportation. They know mass transit is 80% funded from local taxes and it's high taxes that drive business away.
Gringo Bandito
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August 01, 2012
I kept hearing the TSPLOST proponents talking about all of the business that have left and the ones that did not come because of our traffic. Want to know what I didn't hear? The names of any of those businesses. If they had some actual examples, don't you think they would have trotted them out?

Unless they were worried about being rebuked by the businesses that they named, I see no reason to hold that info back if it really exists.
CashOut
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August 01, 2012
tim lee was hoping to cash in big with all these new billions in taxpayer money. what ripoff scheme will he come up with next???
The Observer
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August 01, 2012
I don't know what kind of prank y'all are pulling on yourselves, but this ignorance isn't funny. In the mean time, to those of you planning to move to the metro area, I don't want my commute getting worse, so don't even think about it!
SG68
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August 01, 2012
The TSPLOST was rejected for some very specific reasons related to the ridiculous project list put together by the Roundtable.

That is where the primary problem lies.

But there is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed.

Ron Sifen touched on it, but I will be more to the point.

The Roundtable reps, which included our own Tim Lee, abused and perverted the TIA legislation to their own selfish needs with little consideration for the true purpose of the legislation.

They took the flexibility built into the legislation that would allow the creation of a project list that would effectively address our regional transportation issues and intentionally used that flexibility to manipulate the list to their personal benefit.

They saw it as an opportunity to use the taxpayers to promote their own political ambitions and their own personal profit.

With that huge pot of taxpayer money sitting in front of them they just couldn't resist the temptation.

The ring leaders were Kasim Reed, Mayor of Atlanta and Tad Leithead, Chairman of the ARC and the Cumberland CID.

It appears the rest of the members were just waterboys for these two.

And that points to the dilemma we face now as we try to move forward.

The root of the problem is the people who put the list together and unfortunately because of their elected and appointed positions they will likely be ad hoc members of the next Roundtable.

They have already proven they cannot be trusted. That will not change.

So unless there are some wholesale changes in the "players" we will be right back where we started when and if we do this again.

Looks like we will resolve the Tim Lee problem in Cobb County in the near future.

Harry A
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August 01, 2012
The advocates for the TSPLOST don't live in a real world where people are trying to stay out of foreclosure, feed and cloth their families.

The lack of trust in government is likewise an overriding factor.

Without consideration of these two prime factors, in and of themselves, the advocates weren't going to win no matter the projects.

Yes, there need to be solutions found for traffic congestion, but an ACCIDENT on any of the major highways, whether upgraded or not, will always continue to slow or stop traffic.

Continued unbridled speeding on all of our highways resulting in accidents will always curtail any enhanced traffic flow patterns.
Plus One
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August 01, 2012
Your second point bears repeating. It would be nice if the effects of traffic accidents will be taken into consideration when they continue to examine this issue in the coming years.
DonnaNunn
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August 01, 2012
Lobbyist...hmmmmmm...that explains everything in a nutshell. Wonder who the lobbyists are thinking about when they go about their business...
anonymous
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August 01, 2012
If Cobb leaders brought forward a very defined plan just for Cobb county and had true estimates, I may support paying an extra penny just for Cobb. But I am not going to pay for a bunch of things in Atlanta, Fulton and DeKalb where we all know the politicians hold their hands out in the bidding process!
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