Poll: The final say on T-SPLOST
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Do you support the T-SPLOST


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Mike O. Bedenbaugh
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July 31, 2012
Polls close at four PM. I thought all elections were open from 7AM to 7 PM!!!! Is this an effort to keep voters from voting after they get off from work??? Is this a way to get voters to not vote in hopes the tsplost will pass without the after 4 PM voters who might vote against it????
Brumby2012
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July 31, 2012
I believe the poll they are referring to is the one above.
VFP42
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July 30, 2012
I say close all the public roads down. Sell them off to private companies and PAY ME BACK for the decades of money I've been forced to pour into these hardenened surfaces that do nothing but sit there.

How did they pull the wool over our eyes so fully and completely? Limitless amounts of PUBLIC money is poured into the ground, quite literally, for absolutely nothing. If you want to make ANY use of it, you have to pay tens of thousands of dollars more to purchase your own vehicle that actually goes somewhere!

How can PUBLIC money be wasted on hardening the ground just so the middle class can be turned poor by wasting all their money on the bottomless pits we call "CARS" ??

Not one freaking PUBLIC PENNY should be spent on so-called transportaion that doesn't move (outside an earthquake).

If it ain't a public transportation SYSTEM, it shouldn't oughta get public dollars! NOT EVEN ONE!

HOw do we get rid of the GDOT asphalt loving types who do nothing to improve transportation but constantly holla for a dolla for "more roads?"
I am serious
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July 30, 2012
This poll shows that Cobb is strongly against TSPLOST, and if somehow it passes, we need to take legal action against it just like many states are fighting obamacare...we cannot let our vote/voice be stolen.
Valkyrie Frost
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August 01, 2012
If it passes (which I seriously doubt), it will be because the voters passed it. It's called Democracy. If you oppose it and it's passes anyway, taking it to the courts is just sour grapes unless you can prove meaningfully that the law violates the Constitution.

In the case of the T-Splost, were it to pass, I would encourage educating the public and over turning it in another vote rather than hiring expensive lawyers.

The T-Splost being voted on in an off-beat election is politics and crony capitalism at it's finest. The political supporter know full well that the T-Splost would fail big time in the Nov election.

CobbGuy
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July 30, 2012
This tax is just another way of having the rich get richer at the expense of the poorer. There is no meaningful gain the average person in Cobb so why vote for it. Rapid Transit will never work in metro Atlanta without major subsidy from the state, this road building idea is a total waste of time. Go to London, New York, Chicago, etc., and watch mass transit work, forget the roadways....
anonymous
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July 30, 2012
CobbGuy, I don't care if the rich get richer. In fact, I applaud it.

But, I do have a problem with business types engaging in crony capitalism to have government stick their hands in my pocket for the benefit of their businesses, whether I like it or not.--- That ain't capitalism. That ain't what America is about.

The rinos and chamber pukes should be a ashamed.

ConcernedAtlantan
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July 31, 2012
CobbGuy, where exactly do you think that "major subsidy from the state" comes from? I'll spoil the answer for you: It comes from taxpayer dollars through programs like TSPLOST.

I'm a conservative, but the fact of the matter is that we have serious transportation problems in metro Atlanta, and it's deterring new businesses from moving here. Taxing and spending is rarely the answer, in my opinion, but this is a case where the government is best positioned to solve the problem.
ConcernedAtlantan
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July 31, 2012
CobbGuy, where exactly do you think that "major subsidy from the state" comes from? I'll spoil the answer for you: It comes from taxpayer dollars through programs like TSPLOST.

I'm a conservative, but the fact of the matter is that we have serious transportation problems in metro Atlanta, and it's deterring new businesses from moving here. Taxing and spending is rarely the answer, in my opinion, but this is a case where the government is best positioned to solve the problem.
SG68
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July 31, 2012
@ConcernedAtlantan

We heard you the first time no need to post your comment twice. It was just as lame the second time as it was the first.

and

I hate to break it to you but you are not a fiscal conservative if you support this TSPLOST.

Gasoline taxes aka user fees should be utilized to support road construction and transit not a regressive sales tax that is imposed on everyone regardless of whether or how much they use the transportation infrastructure or not.

The more you use the roads and transit the more you pay.

The less you use it the less you pay.

Perfectly fair and proportional.

This sales tax scam is blatant Obama style income redistribution.

And as Ronald Reagan said: "Government is not the solution government is the problem!!"

Same applies in this situation.
Valkyrie Frost
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August 01, 2012
SG68, T-Splost in not Obama style income redistribution to the poor. It's crony capitalism income redistribution to the politically connected.

I'm not opposed to regional effort to improve transportation, but a general tax on all is not a good and balanced way to pay for it. A gasoline tax would be far more balanced and practical.

CoobGuy, I've been to many major cities around the world with better transportation systems than Atlanta. Rapid transit will not work because Atlanta in not a concentrated hub of business. It's a sprawling mess perfect of cars.

L.A. is the best example of this and they resolved some of their issues via stacking freeways. Chicago and Philadelphia have limited access expressways (meaning, 2-3 lanes that run 5-10 milles with zero exits) and reversible expressways using movable barricades to control access (3 lanes inbound in the morning and 3 lanes outbound in the afternoon).

Metro Atlanta's idea of improving freeways is to add more lanes. We've run out of land to widen 85 from 18 lanes to 24 lanes. We've run out of land to widen 75 from 16 lanes to 20 lanes. We need real long term plans a projects that address no only the express ways but to also address the primary and secondary roadways leading to and from the expressways.

T-SPLOST does little to nothing for the overall problem.

Thomas J. Palmer
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July 30, 2012
Likely the candidate who does not have a winning message will resort to any behavior to be elected. This is not a new phenomenon. Most campaigns focus on personality rather than performance. The losers can only perform by stealing opponents signs.
Totally disgusted.
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July 30, 2012
This seems like the only place where I can make a comment about political race that would be logical:

I have occasionally worked with candidates running for office and know some of the challenges which face campaigns.

In this particular election, I am helping one of the challengers in the school board race for Post 5 (the incumbent is Mr. Banks). Perhaps I am naive but I find it extremely unsettling to have helped put up around 600 yard signs, only to find the vast majority missing or ripped up a couple of days later.

What type of person would encourage or engage in this type of activity?

If a candidate truly has the winning message, why would they need to engage in this federal crime?

jack s
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July 30, 2012
@Totally, that would be a childish person with a god-like persona who feels they never do anything wrong.
RE:Totally disgusted
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July 30, 2012
Ask Mr. Banks
anonymous
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July 30, 2012
I bet you are talking about Lisa Hanson...this weekend I noticed that several of her signs were gone from spots that they had occupied for weeks.

What was left were Banks signs that were standing right next to where the HANSON signs used to be.

Banks and his campaign = disgusting.
anonymous
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July 31, 2012
Bank Banks put him out of his own misery vote for Lisa Hanson Banks has been embarrassment form the beginning don’t forget he said voters were stupid!!
anonymous
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July 31, 2012
The same thing happened to several of the Rozzo signs in our neighborhood (including the one in my yard). The one in the corner yard at the entrance of the neighborhood was replaced by a Matt Dollar sign.

Realistically this has to be some overzealous supporters. I don't think any candidate would condone this -- candidates have been jailed for it before.
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