Candidates for Chairman go on the attack
by Geoff Folsom
July 26, 2012 01:06 AM | 4633 views | 22 22 comments | 13 13 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — With less than a week left before voters head to the polls, civility has gone out the window in the race for Cobb commission chairman. The county’s current chairman spent part of Wednesday’s forum questioning what a former chairman thinks of the county, while the other two contestants have a beef of their own.

The Cobb Republican Party candidate forum allowed much more interaction between contestants than previous events, giving each candidate who is attacked a chance to respond to the criticism. Current Chairman Tim Lee took advantage of this by waving transcripts of a 2008 Polk County Election Board meeting, in which he said opponent Bill Byrne blasted Cobb County during his testimony, an issue Lee had addressed in a campaign mailer last week. Byrne, who served as Cobb chairman from 1992 to 2002 before attempting to run in Polk County, responded that Lee’s campaign for Tuesday’s Republican Primary was desperate.

“I felt it was important to let people who had come to Cobb County in the last 10 years and the folks who have lived here for the last 20 have a reminder of the way Bill Byrne used to conduct himself as a chairman,” Lee said in response to a question from Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Janel Davis. “I felt it was important to let the community know exactly how he feels about Cobb County. I took offense when I first read that copy … I love this county. I worked hard for this county to make sure that the citizens of Cobb County have what they deserve.”

Byrne said that the “slick sheet” Lee sent out claimed that he had run for Polk county commission in 2008, but in reality he never actually ran.

“Tim, can you refresh my memory, did I win or lose that race?” Byrne asked.

Lee responded that Byrne didn’t run, “because you tried to run for a race that you weren’t qualified for.”

That was a reference to the decision by the Polk County Election Board that determined that Byrne wasn’t a resident in the county, where he owns a horse farm.

“That statement was a lie, I did not run in Polk County,” Byrne said, claiming that because he was disqualified, he didn’t actually run.

Lee said the sheet was accurate, and Byrne tried to run, but the election board saw through his “games.”

The mailer Lee’s campaign sent out quoted Byrne’s testimony from the hearing: “The last thing I wanted to do is live in Cobb County, let alone serve in Cobb County. I want to make damn sure Cobb County doesn’t move to Polk County. I live in Polk, I love this county and want to make sure that we preserve and protect this quality of life, and make sure Cobb County doesn’t move here.”

When the MDJ’s Joe Kirby followed up with a question asking whether Byrne felt Cobb County was as bad as he said it was, Byrne responded that the comment was accurate but taken out of context.

Byrne said Polk County is a much smaller, more rural county than Cobb, and that he was answering a question about whether or not he would bring Cobb’s success to Polk County, and he was merely saying he didn’t want to impose Cobb’s way of life on Polk.

“My answer to that question was then as it is today, you cannot duplicate what Cobb County did in Polk County, because what Cobb County is and what Polk County is are two different things,” Byrne said. “You have to build on what it is you are and not what you want to be. And until this county, meaning Polk County, makes a commitment for a countywide sewer system, you cannot bring what growth happened in Cobb County to Polk County.”

Lee responded that there was nothing in the transcript about what Byrne claimed, saying Byrne’s statement disavowing Cobb was a response to a question about why Byrne dropped out of a 2006 chairman’s race against Sam Olens.

Byrne also said Lee’s campaign made “robocalls” to primary voters that accused him of everything from illegal land transactions to political kickbacks, while Lee said his campaign had nothing to do with the calls.

“These are things that you are hearing from a campaign that has imploded,” Byrne said. “I know where we are in the polls, and this is the reaction to it.”

When WSB-TV reporter Ross Cavitt asked if he had a response to the back-and-forth between Lee and Byrne, retired east Cobb businessman Larry Savage said it was probably time for a “change of pace” in the forum. But earlier in the day, Savage was calling out the fourth contestant in the race, retired Marine Col. Mike Boyce.

Savage sent an email to Boyce, who left Wednesday’s forum after 45 minutes to attend an already scheduled campaign event, and several of Boyce’s supporters questioning Boyce’s position that he should be elected chairman because he was a Marine officer, which gave him “mayoral” responsibilities, and that he is also a budget expert.

“It is unclear what he actually did in his various military postings that relate to the Chairman’s position and it is unclear what is meant by ‘budget expert,’” Savage wrote.

Among Savage’s questions were whether Boyce was responsible for a water department, court system and jail and traffic problems, as well as queries about his claims to have run a $50 million business with 400 employees.

Savage further questioned Boyce’s military service, wanting to know what he flew and why he gave it up.

Boyce responded by providing the MDJ with discharge documents showing he received numerous medals while in the Marines between 1971 and 2001, including Meritorious Service medals for leading a helicopter squadron as a pilot. In total, he said he had more than 4,000 hours of flying time in the military.

Boyce also said he was responsible for the morale, welfare and recreation department for his Marine base in Hawaii while on active duty. This meant dealing with private entities that were required to make a profit and overseeing 450 employees.

“I had to run that business just like everybody else did,” he said. “If you didn’t make your profit, we didn’t keep you open.”

In fact, Boyce said he could take a county organizational chart, and find an equivalent of what is on the chart to nearly all his responsibilities in the military. That includes water, sanitation and parks departments.

Savage said Wednesday that he sent Boyce the questions because he doesn’t understand why a man who has said so little during the campaign is getting support.

“I know people who will vote for Tim Lee because they know him and like him, I know people who will vote for Bill Byrne for the same reason,” Savage said. “But Mike Boyce, people are getting behind him for no reason. I know that Bill Byrne and Tim Lee have been beaten half to death, and Mike Boyce is getting a free ride, and people are getting a little bit fuzzy about asking him a question.”

Boyce said he doesn’t understand why Savage decided to question his military record, but said he hopes to get support from 48,000 military veterans in Cobb.

“I don’t know why he went down this road, I’m disappointed, but I have too much respect for Larry Savage to let it bother me,” Boyce said. “If you’re going to go after a military person, you’d better have your facts straight. We live and die by honor.”

The winner of Tuesday’s primary is expected to serve a four-year term as chairman, starting in January, because no Democrat qualified for the nomination.

The two-hour forum, held at Cobb GOP headquarters, attracted 90 audience members. Among them were candidates for other offices including district attorney candidates Vic Reynolds and Cindi Yeager; Superior Court Judge candidates Reuben Greene, Van Pearlberg and Greg Poole and Superior Court Clerk candidate John Skelton. Others on hand included Kennesaw Mayor Mark Mathews and Councilman Tim Killingsworth, lobbyist Michael Paris and former Commissioner Thea Powell.
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dustoff
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July 28, 2012
Byrne is an arrogant bigot who leads by intimidation.

Boyce is unknown.

Savage is a meeting attender but knows nothing about running anything.

Tim well he is Tim.

We have 4 not so good choices.
TIC
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July 30, 2012
As always in political contests it comes down to the choice between the lesser of the evils.

I have already marked Tim Lee off my list.

So at least my dilemma is reduced to choosing between the three remaining candidates.

Regardless of which one I end up voting for, I know for certain it will be a vast improvement over LeeBama.
nanny diva
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July 27, 2012
hey larry in reponse to your comment:

Savage said Wednesday that he sent Boyce the questions because he doesn’t understand why a man who has said so little during the campaign is getting support. ..... did it ever occur to you that the main thing Mike Boyce is doing is " not attacking his opponents" but sticking to the issues & facts with main one being we the cobb people want, are ready & will make change happen. He will be a breath of fresh air for Cobb Cty. I have encouraged everyone i know to vote for him.

mk-Boyce trustworthy
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July 26, 2012
The only way to see change , is to vote CHANGE!

Mike Boyce came to me , a regular citizen , at a townhall meeting and offered help in investigating SPLOST waste, fraud & abuse.

I know for a fact, he tried his best to get answers,.. but the lack of willingness of local jurisdictions to be forthcoming, makes it next to impossible to get to the truth.

Mike promised if elected he will work diligently to expose & end the waste that is holding Cobb County back.

I know he is honest & sincere & boy we sure need some of that round here!!
Devlin Adams
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July 26, 2012
As along time Larry Savage supporter, I must say that I am most disappointed that he chose this tactic to bolster his ratings, I think it will have the opposite affect.

Boyce is a 30 year veteran of the Marine Corps, a staff grade officer with considrable command experience, as well as a decorated combat veteran.

If you don't think a command postion on a military base is similar to being a mayor, then you havea serious gap in your education. On a miltary base, you have police, fire and emergency response organizations, sanitation departments, hospitals, doctor's offices, grocery stores, retail stors, eating establihsments, private clubs. movie theaters, bowling alleys, swimming pools. In addition yu ahve the logistics of feeding and housing thousands of people, in additional to seeing to the needs o ftheir dependents and paying them. Yeah, I say command expwerience on any military base qualifies one as much as running a civilian business.

That being sia, I still intend to support Larry Savage, but I will put a mouth whipping on him the next time I see him.
ProudVet
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July 26, 2012
Thank you for your comments
TIC
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July 26, 2012
I haven't decided on who I am going to vote for, but I know it won't be Tim Lee.

Talk about someone who has demonstrated his disdain for Cobb County!!

The latest example of his anti-Cobb sentiment is teaming up with Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and the ARC to cheat Cobb County out of $859 million in TSPLOST funding.

He actually supports spending that money to build a light rail from the Arts Center to Cumberland. 95% percent of the project is physically located in the City of Atlanta.

If that isn't the sign of someone who is looking to do Cobb County harm I don't know what is.

It is certainly not someone we should have chairing our county commission.
VFP42
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July 26, 2012
95% of the project is in Atlanta because that is where we need to go. It is so we can go downtown.

What did you want, something that is 50% in Cobb and 50% in Paulding so the County employees could ride the light rail into downtown Marietta?
TIC
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July 27, 2012
@VFP42

The connection to Arts Center is important, but a connection to Perimeter along I-285 makes even more sense.

That's where most people in Cobb and Cherokee work, shop and go for entertainment not Midtown or Downtown. Once at Perimeter the system would tie into MARTA and connect to Buckhead Midtown and downtown. That where the jobs and ridership are located.

Then if it still makes sense build from Cumberland to the Arts Center.

Putting that aside for a moment.

A point that has been made many times is why doesn't Kasim Reed use Atlanta's $600 million that he is selfishly spending on the Beltline Trolley, a LOCAL trolley system that has nothing to do with regional transportation, and spend that money on the portion of the Arts Center to Cumberland light rail that is in the City of Atlanta.

That gets it to Cumberland, or at least to the river.

Then Cobb County could use our $859 Million to build the balance of the light rail up to the Kennesaw area.

That is a REGIONAL project that addresses the congestion on the I-75 corridor where it actually exists From North Cobb to the I-285 interchange.
JJ Mule
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July 26, 2012
Cobb Citizens need a choice.

Where is the Democrat?

These (4) apear to be RINO'S.
LarSav
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July 26, 2012
I know Larry and have talked with him about taxes and other issues. He knows very little. The multi-hour conversation was brutal. Ask him what city he's run? He's not even from Cobb let alone love or hate it. He's recently moved here. How about we attack him for not having a family. Is that fair game Larry? If miltary record is, that too must be fair game. Let's get down in the muck.
Just Wait
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July 26, 2012
I certainly thank and appreciate EVERYONE who served in the military. However, military service alone will not factor in any decision I make for public service. Past work experience, education and the ability to work with others are primary qualities I seek. I'm still looking.
Grandson of Flubber
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July 26, 2012
Mr. Savage, I have yet to decide who I am going to vote for, with the exception that I am not voting for Mr. Lee. He will live or die with TSPLOST and the millage increase last year. As to why Mr. Boyce is getting support, could it be that people are fed up with the good-o-boy network, establishment Republicans, and want new blood? Just maybe the voters want politicans who listen to them instead of special interest groups. Don't know, just a theory.

G. Flubber III
SG68
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July 26, 2012
Sadly this is all very high in entertainment value but really not addressing the leadership vacuum created by Tim Lee.

The immature back and forth between Lee and Byrne has eliminated both of them from my list of potential Chairman.

I can't abide that type of non issue related crap. I want to hear about positions and solutions. I am not interested in personal insults.

Now I find myself left with the unenviable task of choosing between to other two.

Let's face it people in political contests it is always the choice of the lesse of two evils.

I held my nose
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July 26, 2012
when I voted on the chairman race.
Voting Lee next week
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July 26, 2012
Again Lee is the only candidate with the experience to keep Cobb with a triple A credit rating and run a County as large as Cobb. Any of the other will surely ruin our credit rating while bickering through their term. While Lee may have close ties to the chamber as many business in Cobb, I see that as an asset. And I support our policemen and firemen which is why I supported the small mil rate increase which is still lower than most counties in the region.
Fun show
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July 26, 2012
With ONLY four candidates to pick from, watching the show last night made it easy. Two candidates attacked each other, the third had to leave to raise more money and the fourth kept his cool and responded as a future chairman.
Tweedle dums?
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July 26, 2012
Lee, Byrnes and Savage should remember that if you don't have anything to say, it is better to be silent. Lee and Byrnes attacked each other and Savage, who must have felt left out, decided to question Mike Boyce's military record! What a bunch of Tweedle Dums!!
Pat H
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July 26, 2012
Tim Lee comes by his arrogance naturally and does not need to be in a debate for his job to let it show. In fact, in Tuesday's Commissioners meeting, in response to a citizen who asked why alcohol is being allowed at the Safety Village: "I know the answer but I am not going to tell you".

If it was me at the podium, I would have asked him for an invitation to his victory party.
proudVet
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July 26, 2012
Sounds to me like Savage is whining just like the little boy jumping up and down saying 'what about me, what about me' Just because he ran two years ago does not make him the presumptive choice for the not Tim or not Bill voters. I for one take offense to Savage's attack on military honor. Maybe he should consider the old saying about a military member: To paraphrase: a military member has written a blank check for up to his/her life payable to the United States. Think about that Larry.
COBB CSI
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July 26, 2012
All I know is that Bill Byrne is a real Viet Nam war Vet and he isn’t bragging; all of a sudden Mike Boyce is riding his white horse to save Cobb County. Where have all of these people been in the past two years Larry Savage has kept up with all the county business and school board business? If Boyce gets in he won’t want to hear no it be his way or the highway ex-colonel and all think about that. Savage and Byrne are the only choices. Somebody from the chamber through Timmy O'Lee a rope!!
ProudVet
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July 26, 2012
Funny how you now call answering accusations from Savage bragging. How about thanking a veteran? Both Byrne AND Boyce served their country. You don't see Byrne attacking Boyce's military record and you shouldn't either. So Savage has gone to meetings, lots of people do that. What has he done to help out in the community or does he just go to meetings?
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