KSU to create new art school
by Marietta Daily Journal Staff
July 03, 2012 01:05 AM | 3132 views | 22 22 comments | 13 13 recommendations | email to a friend | print
KENNESAW — Kennesaw State University’s Department of Visual Arts will become the School of Art and Design this fall.

“The size and complexity of the department has increased to a point that they exceed the boundaries of a typical department,” said Dr. Joe Thomas, who headed the former department and will run the new school. “The School of Art and Design makes up more than half of the student population in the College of the Arts. Our new designation as a school demonstrates the scale and professionalism of our programs.”

The change was needed in light of the former department’s recent growth, Thomas said. The number of art majors increased by 70 percent between 2004 and 2009, far outstripping the average growth of 25 percent, according to KSU.

The new school will offer four degrees: a Bachelor of Fine Arts in art, a Bachelor of Arts in art history, a Bachelor of Science in art education and a Master of Arts in Teaching Art.

“All of us in the school appreciate the support of College of the Arts Dean Joseph Meeks, Provost Ken Harmon and President Dan Papp for making this change possible,” Thomas said.
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Small-town Mentality
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July 04, 2012
Yes, the world needs art. Full stop. Life is not all about getting a job. The American Dream is about steadily racking up so many bills that you can't work in a field you love; instead, you must work in whatever menial job you can scrape up to pay for your huge house and overpriced car.

Artists can make a living in many different fields; some make less, some make more. Not everybody needs to work in an office following orders, and not everyone who DOESN'T is a slacker or dependent on the state.

Are business classes helpful? Yup. Are they still an option for someone in an arts major? Yup. They may not be the focus of the major, but one could easily put together a degree in fine arts that included all the skills necessary for running a business.

Travel out of your small town once in a while and maybe you can expand your thinking a little.

Cobb Taxpayer
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July 03, 2012
Hard to imagine the "growth rate" and why ?

I would think there are far more areas of study, even at Tier3 KSU, that would outgrow and should be responded to before this creation ? Did notice some the recent grade postings - Wow, must be a bunch of smart folks considering all of the A's. Makes me wonder what the requirements and classes would be measured by ?
EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
Mr.Cobb Taxpayer. Guess what? I pay Cobb County taxes too! And I have a Bachelors in Fine Art. And I have a full time job. And I'll tell you what's hard to imagine.... That in the year 2012 someone could be so small minded to think that the interest and importance of the arts is so miniscule. Hey! Blind guy! Open your eyes. Everything around you was created by an artist. Fool. And another thing. To throw "Tier 3" in there as to belittle my education is weak. Sweetheart, everyone starts out somewhere. Good luck with your taxes in the year to come. You ought to be more focused on the health care mandate naming yourself 'Cobb Taxpayer'.
ArtsGraduate
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July 03, 2012
It is important to note that this is not a "new" program, as is incorrectly stated in the headline. It is the change in name of the existing program from a "Department" to a "School". Of course, anyone who actually read the article probably understands that.
anonymous
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July 03, 2012
--RE: Of course, anyone who actually read the article probably understands that. --

Owww. I think that was some snark that only an arts department, I mean school, could yield.

Big Daddy
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July 03, 2012
As long as French Fry cooking is part of the core requirements
D.G. in Clarkdale
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July 03, 2012
Too funny...
Living for Art
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July 03, 2012
In the 1980s I was an art major at KSU and then at GA State Univ. as an interior design major in their art dept. I only changed majors after waiting for class availability in my major. Too many students and not enough classes.

I am glad I changed because I obtained a business degree which helped me be more marketable.

Sadly, anyone who is a fine arts major, such as drawing & painting, or printmaking probably will struggle to earn a living. My grandchild shows talent as an artist, but I tell the child to pursue other majors in college and treat art has a hobby until you sell soemthing.
EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
Doesn't sound like you are fully 'Living for the Art'. You should encourage your grandchild to pursue his/her God given talent. Yes, business degrees are more marketable. However, I do not believe that is the answer. KSU has an incredibly strong program in place already. In fact KSU artist flood the Atlanta art scene and are quite successful. But there is always room for improvement. In my opinion, more business classes should be required for an art degree. But they should be geared towards artist....not a standard business course. Artist think differently. That's why they can create and the rest of the world cannot.

My own mother tried to steer me away from art, although I showed early signs of creativity and artistic ability. When I made up my mind to obtain and art degree and she saw what I was capable of, she sobbed. She felt guilt for holding me back all those years. I am not saying the same will be true for you and your grandchild, but I do emplore you to nurture his/her ability and watch it flourish. And of course, encourage he/she take a few business courses in art school.
imeanwhatever
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July 03, 2012
i think the first day of orientation for art students should be a drill sargeant yelling at them for wasting their and the taxpayers dime getting an arts degree. if they are too stupid to get a degree that pays, or really want to paint a friggin picture, they dont need a four year college degree.

the best artists never went to school. a four year degree is for those that dont have the intelligence or work ethic to get a real degree and dont have the artistic ability to forgo school.

yep, and we pay for their student loans.
ArtsGraduate
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July 03, 2012
Interesting perspective you have.

I have a four year degree in music, and I still work in the field. I am gainfully employed with a salary that is well above the household median income for this area. I own my own home, car (paid for), and have an impeccable credit score. My student loans have been repaid in full, by me.

Remarkable how I was able to achieve all of that without intelligence or work ethic!
Tclab
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July 03, 2012
Actually the great Masters were schooled and financed by patrons.

I suspect you watch a lot of TV and play video games.

Artists design even that. You are NOT paying student loans...the students are when they can.

Did you miss out on your chance?
EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
imeanwhatever, you are clearly uneducated. I'd like to hear your definition of a "real degree". To say "the best artist never went to school" could only be the statement of someone living under a rock. Did you even go to class....in elementary school?? Come on. That is like saying the best doctors never went to school. To educate your mind is to EDUCATE YOUR MIND. There is nothing shameful in that.

I mean seriously. Your entire statement is idiotic. I don't have the time to address every single absurd claim you've made.

Go read a book.
KSUAlum
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July 03, 2012
You folks really have negative things to say about an expansion in education? I think you'll find that the unemployment rate of those with college degrees is substantially lower than those that only finished high school. This is great news, the world needs Art.
anonymous
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July 03, 2012
KSUAlum, I note that you deftly avoided stating that the unemployment rate of those with "fine arts" degrees is substantially lower than those that only finished high school. Why so?
KSUAlum
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July 03, 2012
Actually, I work in television broadcasting for one of Atlantas biggest employers (Time Warner). We employ thousands of people who have obtained art degrees and we are growing. The thought that art degrees are worthless is a very old fashioned way of thinking.
anonymous
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July 03, 2012
KSUAlum, say what you will BUT...I still see you are not making the statement that the unemployment rate of those with "fine arts" degrees is substantially lower than those that only finished high school. Why so?

EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
Mr. Anonymous. Who ever said the sole purpose of attending a university was to get a job. Do you not believe in expanding your mind? Further your education! God did not put us on this earth to graduate college and get a job. There are more things to life so precious and valuable that sadly you will miss out on. I am sorry you are so blind to see that the unemployment rate is all encompassing; those with fine arts degrees, GEDs, Masters and even those that fly below the radar calling themselves anonymous. But for the record, I graduated from KSU with a Bachelors in Fine Art and I have a full time job. Comparing a highschool drop out to a college graduate is like comparing apples to oranges. Try comparing apples to apples next time.
anonymous
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July 03, 2012
Maaaarvelous. With so many students finding themselves unemployed after graduation these days, an art school is just the answer for making sure KSU will always be able to boast of high employment numbers for their students after graduation.
EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
Mr. Anonymous again.... Are you aware that the addition to the Art Building was placed at the bottom of the list for KSU. In the last 10 years the campus added new dorms, parking decks, English Building, Social Sciences Bldg, Baseball Annex, Soccer Stadium, Nursing Building, Sports and Rec Park, Practice Field, Convocation Center and Dining Hall for goodness sakes!!!!! And have you seen the landscaping on the campus? It changes every day!! The Art Department had outgrown the Building years ago. All that is happening is that they are finally creating the necessary space to learn. And rightfully naming it a "school" instead of department. It's called GROWTH. Believe it or not, it happens.
El guapo
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July 03, 2012
Just what America needs - more fine arts graduates!
EMPLOYED KSU Alum
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July 06, 2012
Hey El Guapo, go read a comic book. By the way, and artist created El Guapo! Kind of IRONIC.
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