Reasons remain to fight for overturn of Obamacare
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President Obama, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats swore themselves blue in the face that the “personal mandate” at the heart of their health-reform law was not a tax on those who failed to buy health insurance. So it is ironic — and dismaying — that the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision announced Thursday upholding the constitutionality of that law is premised on the idea that the mandate is in fact a tax, and that Congress has the power to impose such a tax. And it is doubly ironic — and even more than doubly dismaying and disappointing — that the decisive vote in favor of upholding Obamacare was provided by ostensibly conservative Chief Justice John Roberts, an appointee of President George W. Bush.

“Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness,” Roberts wrote.

Had Obama been forthright that his radical remake of U.S. health care was based on a massive new punitive tax it would never have passed. It barely passed even as it was, and now is hugely unpopular with much of the population. Pelosi notoriously said at the time that Congress would have to pass the law in order for members and the public “to know what’s in it.” And now that the public has had 829 days (as of Thursday) to get to know it, it’s fair to say that for most Americans, to know Obamacare is not to love it.

The court having certified that Congress can mandate Americans buy a certain product (health insurance), it shouldn’t be long before Congress starts adding to the list of such items.

The four conservative dissenters on the court (Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and Alito) predicted the new law will mean higher costs for insurance companies and higher premiums for consumers, and “could threaten the survival of health-insurance companies, despite the Act’s goal of ‘effective health insurance markets.’”

“In our view, the act before us is invalid in its entirety,” Kennedy wrote.

Added their dissent, in a slam at the majority’s flawed reasoning: “One would expect this Court to demand more than fly-by-night briefing and arguments” before reaching such a momentous decision.

And momentous is it. The new law is expected to make it so expensive for employers that many choose to stop offering health care benefits to employees, shunting them into the government’s arms. So much for Obama’s promise that if you like your present health plan, you can keep it.

It also contains a punitive new tax on every medical device manufactured or sold in this country, with the exceptions of eyeglasses, contact lenses and hearing aids. If your dad needs to buy a walker, or your diabetic teen needs an insulin pump, or you need a pacemaker, the cost will be higher, thanks to Obama. And providers will be taxed more for everything from tongue depressors to X-ray machines.

It’s a law that throws the notion of limited government on its ear, undermines the strength and independence of our health-care system and will be ruinously expensive. And it’s a law that opens the door to government rationing of health care, although you won’t find the “R-word” in there anywhere.

And though there are a few aspects of the law that should be incorporated in its Republican successor, such as the refusal to allow insurance companies to deny coverage to children with health problems, the refusal to let insurance companies put lifetime caps on insurance payouts, and the refusal to let insurers deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions; most Americans would be better off had the Court ruled the other way.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and congressional Republicans vowed Thursday to fight for Obamacare’s overturn, and we would urge them to do so.

Most Democrats were in full-fledged celebratory mood after the ruling, but it came as a clunker to many others. Indeed, the more people have learned about what Obamacare may mean for them and how much it will cost, the less popular it has become.

Mr. Obama now has his health care law, and he will have to live with it. Unfortunately, so will the rest of us — at least for now.
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O'Bama-Roberts Care
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June 30, 2012
The votes are in. It's a good law, no matter what the reactionaries say.
JA Bolton
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June 30, 2012
Obama care is the same as the program Mitt put in Mass, same fine for not joining, same all the way. His guy even helped the Obama administration write it.If MDJ would list each item in the Affordable Health Care Act, people would support it.

Do you support stopping insurance comapanies from dropping you when you are sick?

Are you tired of people not buying insurance then showing up at the ER and sticking you with the bill?

Are your fed up with insurance companies taking your money, but using it for investor dividends and big salaries and bonuses instead of using it to give you health care?

Do approve of insurance companies denying coverage or charging outrageous rates because you or your kids have a preexisting condition?

Would you like to keep your college age kids on your policy?

Do you think people who refuse to buy insurance and still use medical services should pay a fine when they stick you with the bill?

So how about it, MDJ, really report on the issue instead of passing on republican and insurance lobby lies? Read Wendell Potter's book, Deadly Spin and get informed or you're look as dumb as CNN and FOX. He was in charge of Cigna and Humana's distorted lies abut health care and he is now blowing the whistle.

Enough already
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June 29, 2012
Oh hey, just a clean up note to those in the GOP who've been pounding the table that the healthcare law was going to be horrible for the economy, the stock market, jobs, blah blah blah...

...since the Supreme Court announcement yesterday, the Dow has SHOT UP by 400 points, almost 4%...NASDAQ up 120points or 4%. So, please, enough of the hyperventilating about this law destroying the economy. It is clear, big business and Wall Street have spoken with their MONEY....not just the endless blather from right wing punditry. Oh yes and while stocks go up, stocks go down it is clear that this decision was not the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back relative to our economy.
Facts are so scary
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June 29, 2012
Hey great point "enough already". Additionally since Obama signed the law March 10 2010, the Nasdaq has gone from 2370 to 2935 (up 24%) and the DJIA has gone from 10,600 to 12,880 (up 21.5%).

Stock prices up 22% since the signing of this law?...why, what a horrible disaster for the economy! With this trend in hand, Obama should sign all sorts of things the GOP claims will be a disaster and we can all get rich on stocks like the top 1-percenters who apparently have all been crying crocodile tears all the way to the bank the past 3 years!
Pubs Whipped Again
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June 29, 2012
No sensible person is going to vote for Romney. He is ignorant, just like all the other candidates the republicans have put forth for several decades. No matter what the situation is, people don't want anymore dumb presidents. That is such agony. O'Bama is far more intelligent than Romney. I don't care how many degrees Romney has; he didn't earn them.
br548
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June 29, 2012
Is that the Irish O'Bama of whom you are so proud? And you call Romney ignorant. Typical O'Bama supporter.
JA Bolton
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June 30, 2012
Well, at least Romney did support Obama care when he put it in place in Mass. With all his flip fops, maybe he'll flip back to his original position on universal health care for all. Mitt has been on both sides of every important issue and now refuses to answer reporters' question - another Sarah Palin hiding from the media.
okpeople
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June 29, 2012
Its a tax! The Federal government has the right to tax. Now they are going to tax your behavior to make you comply. Drive a big SUV? Tax! you're not being green enough. Drink sugary sodas? Tax! those are bad for you. Fat? Tax! Your not skinny enough. Think that's silly? Who gets taxed for being married? Who gets a tax credit for letting the Government be your spouse? Ever heard of "head of household tax credit"? When the Government starts to tax what you like or use, then you will care.
JA Bolton
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June 30, 2012
But your guy Mitt said it was a fine or a penalty when he put Romneycare in place.
Bee Ess
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June 29, 2012
While I see the virtues of providing access to care for millions more Americans, the long-term cost of this law far outweighs the benefits.

I don't know anyone who agrees that the government can provide better services than a free enterprise system. When providers can no longer operate the business and are forced to close their doors, the government will gladly pick up the slack and pass along the increasing costs to consumers.

This is not to say that universal healthcare is a terrible notion. Surely there is a way to make it work and provide care to all citizens at a reasonable cost without bankrupting the nation. The ACA is expected to erode the federal deficit. How do you reduce deficits? You either cut spending (which is definitely not happening...this bill has a $1T pricetag)or you raise taxes. There is no other way. So to offset the cost of this bill and simultaneously shrink the deficit, American citizens will have to pick up the tab.

Take a look at what's going on in Europe today. Massive unemployment, crumbling currency values and desperate uncertainty. It's a preview of what happens when a nation operates with a heavy handed government.

Personally, I think we should cease all foreign aid to non-third world countries until the United States of America is free of debt.

dumb dems
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June 29, 2012
Guess what! Chief Justice Roberts has inadvertently just put Romney into the White House. Maybe democrats like being taxed to death, then taken care of by the federal government but the majority of Americans are not going to put up with being told what to buy or not buy, etc. And then having taxes piled onto them and their children so some feckless politician can decide how he/she is going to spend it. Not going to happen.
JA Bolton
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June 30, 2012
Mitt? Just remember who wrote the first health care reform and put it in place in Mass. You can always count on Mitt to change his mind and he could just go back to supporting his own health care plan -Obama-Romney care.
Devlin Adams
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July 02, 2012
Bolton, there is a major difference in a state enacting a health care law and the federal government enacting one.

Further, do you really know what was in the Mass law, or do you just assume it was the same as Obamamcare.
Something4nothing
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June 29, 2012
I suspect the individual mandate is 'hugely unpopular' because it forces people unwilling to buy health insurance to purchase it. But I also suspect the reason the polls indicate an approximate 60% disapproval is because those who have formed a negative view (Republicans and Independents) have done so because they are being told how to think (influenced by party leaders to think negatively - sheep mentality). To me I don't like to have my insurance premiums increase year-after-year 2 to 4 times the inflation rate partially because I am paying for people who are forced to use the hospital emergency room or other catastrophic illness such as cancer and then don't pay (something for nothing). But all this angst is nothing compared to how Medicare will eventually implode our whole health care system, eventually ensuring a single payer system through the federal government (probably within the next decade). Why should I shop for services or scrutinize a medical bill if somebody else is paying for it?
J Balfour
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June 30, 2012
I agree! It is time to make everyone pay up, just like Mitt said when he enacted his Romneycare. Everyone uses the system and everyone should pay (like with Medicare) or be assessed penalties if they refuse. These people with catastrophic illnesses who end up in the ER don't pay because they go bankrupt with all the outrageous bills, so we pay with higher insurance premiums and higher medical costs which means higher copay and higher deductibles for less coverage.
Kim Huffman
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June 29, 2012
You left out the part that says that women cannot be charged more by insurance companies, simply because they are women ( and in most cases pay more for health insurance then men ), and that even a pregnancy cannot be used by insurance companies as a "pre existing" condition, and used to deny coverage.

You point to a Republican plan...where were they when a plan was needed?, nowhere..they were all bickering on how best not to cooperate with Obama, and in Mcconel's stated goal of seeing Obama not get elected...now, they are hoisted on their own petard. And by the way, if you read Justice Robert's ruling, it is not a tax, as the Supreme Court cannot rule on tax matters until someone has actually had to pay it ( which has not happened yet )..the constructs of collection resemble a tax, but it is a penalty.
rjsnh
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June 29, 2012
Fortunately, on the day after our better angels have prevailed, your continued Chicken Little, "the sky is falling! the sky is falling" Fox News, Rush Linbaugh (who said he would now move to Costa Rica...where guess what Rush...they have universal heathcare)scare tactics mean very very little and thank goodness for that. Yesterday, we moved closer to that more perfect union...it was a good day for America and Americans.
rjsnh
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June 29, 2012
Yesterday was a good day for America. We took another step in the right direction. Yesterday we chose country over party. Yesterday we moved a step closer to joining all the other developed nations of the world in providing universal health care. Conservatives will bemoan this fact, and continue to use scare tactics to undo this progress. But, in the end, as with social security, civil rights, and so many other issues they will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Yesterday our better angels prevailed and we moved closer to a more perfect union.
West Cobb Resident
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July 02, 2012
COMPLETELY disagree.
Stupidity no excuse
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June 29, 2012
So, the GOP argument against this law now is that they were too stupid (or perhaps more appropriately, simply blinded by partisan rage) to figure out that the financial penalty being proposed for not responsibly securing health insurance was in essence a tax?

Well sorry MDJ editorial board and GOPers writ large, stupidity is simply stupidity...and no, the affordable health car act will not cure you of this affliction. Ha, you were duped -- so MOVE ON!

Oh, and here's a novel idea...if you disagree so strongly with the insurance mandate, don't buy insurance and deal with it April 15th.
Thomas J Palmer
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June 29, 2012
My primary care physician is closing his practice and leaving the U.S. Likewise is my cardiologist. Their freedom to practice their skills has been removed from consideration. Their options are to pursue freedom in another environment.
Kevin Foley
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June 29, 2012
Mr. Palmer - Since most of the rest of the developed world has universal healthcare, tell your docs Syria is the sort of place where they'll find the freedom they're looking for.

They also seem to need doctors there.
anonymous
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June 29, 2012
Your doctors are idiots, then. Where are they going to go? Every other country in the developed world has some form of universal healthcare.
Kim Huffman
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June 29, 2012
Did they tell you what country they would go to?..probably one ranked higher in health care than the U.S...oh, but that would probably be a socialist funded healthcare system...gee, maybe they can go to Costa Rica,

Thailand or Mexico and offer their services to Americans.
Yeah right...
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June 29, 2012
I've heard this same (ridiculous) argument many times while viewing Fox...that the US is about to suffer a "brain drain" of physicians in the was of ACA implementation.

The fact of the matter is that the US remains (yes, even since the signing of the Affordable Care Act) a net IMPORTER of physicians. A real problem in many parts of the world are that their trained physicians are leaving their home countries to practice in the US.

For me, I'd be glad to take an enthusiastic and thankful international physician than your disloyal and unpatriotic physician whose sense of entitlement outweighs any obligation he may feel towards his community.

JA Bolton
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June 30, 2012
My doctor's ability to practice medicine is dictated by my insurance company. If you do some research you will see that the developed countries have lower per person cost, higher life spans, and more doctors. Get your facts right and do your own research instead of vomiting the garbage FOX puts out. By the way you need to read Deadly Spin by Wendell Potter, an insurance PR insider who is blowing the whistle.
FROM TEXAS
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June 29, 2012
Well I guess we can blame this on George Bush, Roberts said he would call ball or strike didn’t know the empire stopped the game rewrote the law, hope Roberts has a food taster this is biggest tax increase in history. Big companies don’t like being mugged at the tax office so a lot of good medical plans will go away, I’m sure sitting in a government health care and wellness center would be too bad it couldn’t be that inefficient could it. Obama is defiantly the major Taxer and Thief they will monitor your food habits and guide you in the right direction; you get your new card and a chip in your arm than you can go Nation Wide probably meet all NATO standards as well.
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