Much yet to be learned about high-speed rail line
June 24, 2012 01:40 AM | 1752 views | 10 10 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print
High-speed rail. It’s a great idea for any community — if you can get someone else to pay for it. Otherwise …

HTNB, a private consultant working for the state Department of Transportation, presented a study to that body on Wednesday that suggested that it would be economically feasible to construct high-speed passenger rail lines connecting Atlanta with Savannah, Jacksonville, Fla., Louisville, Ky. and Birmingham, Ala. Such a network likely would pass through or near Cobb County, which is already traversed by several conventional rail lines.

The proposed high-speed rail line is not to be confused with the light-rail line that could be built between the Art Center MARTA Station in Atlanta and Cumberland Mall in Cobb, should the TSPLOST referendum be approved by voters July 31. The light-rail line would be strictly local in character, with more stops and much slower speeds.

High-speed rail entails long distances between stops to allow the trains to achieve the blinding speeds that give them their name. Only two stations (in Cartersville and Dalton) are envisioned in Georgia on the Atlanta-to-Louisville link of the high-speed line, for example, according to the Associated Press. There also would be stops in Chattanooga, Murfeesboro and Nashville, Tenn., and Bowling Green and Elizabethtown, Ky.

There would be a stop in Anniston on the Atlanta-to-Birmingham route.

An earlier study looked at an Atlanta-to-Charlotte route and is now in the environmental impact stage.

The lines would intersect in Atlanta, and stations are possible downtown and/or at Hartsfield Jackson Airport at which travelers could switch between various modes of transportation.

In a perfect world, such a network of lines would have been built and paid for decades ago. But realistically, several questions must be considered:

* Who would ride such a line? Is there sufficient demand between Atlanta and Louisville (and the stops in between) to justify construction, for example?

* Is there sufficient population density in the various corridors to support the lines?

* Would the trip time be faster than that offered by current transportation modes (car, bus and passenger train)? (One would presume that to be the case, but you never know.)

* Would the ticket cost for a high-speed rail trip from Atlanta to Jacksonville be competitive with the cost of a plane ticket between those destinations?

* Might it be faster and cheaper to just add additional highway capacity where possible?

* Would private investors help share in some of the costs?

* How would such lines overcome the question of what to do about the thousands of grade-crossings that bedevil the current rail lines? There could be no grade crossings for a high-speed line because of safety considerations. That means that all of those thousands of roads in the path of the high-speed trains would have to be bridged over, tunneled under or rerouted, at staggering cost.

And therein lies the probable rub — the cost of such a line. Published reports in the Savannah Morning News peg the construction cost for the proposed line at up to $41 million per mile. And the annual budget for maintenance and operations would be potentially ruinous as well, even after federal dollars and even after the other costs are divided by the multiple jurisdictions involved.

Looking ahead, a high-speed rail line could be the answer to Southeastern transportation needs in the 21st and 22nd centuries. Or it could be just a steel-wheeled version of the now-grounded Concorde transatlantic jetliner: A sleek, extraordinarily fast means of getting from Point A to Point B, but one so costly that few could afford it, even after enormous government subsidies were factored in.

It’s way too early to climb on or jump off this train; but not too early to start considering its pros and cons for Cobb and Georgia.
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JR in Mableton
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June 27, 2012
As a business traveler who spends quite a bit of time at ATL flying to Orlando, Tampa, Raleigh, Nashville, I would love to ride the train!! I can't work while I drive, and airport security is a pain. It is ironic that a city which owes its very existence to rail is now afraid of rail. It's easy to be a critic. I'm not hearing a lot of alternative solutions.
tex G
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June 28, 2012
Sure well in 2075 when they get it built and its about 300 billion in the hole you can ride it to an inner city Obama care facility and stand in line.
Tex G
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June 27, 2012
We dont need high speed rail.

What we need is for the criminality and cronyism that is pervasive be quashed completely.

If our dollars were not literally stolen by government crooks we could have the roads paved with gold.

We need to vote down TSPLOST. This is a joke.
KellyWoods
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June 25, 2012
The first step is to implement a comprehensive plan that will address the regional needs of the city and that is exactly what the Regional Transportation Referendum will do. We need to start with the basics which entail getting our transportation infrastructure in tact.
RedHotRedBoard
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June 25, 2012
Go take a "sound bite" pill, Kelly.

There is absolutely NOTHING in the RTR / TIA / TSPLOST that will address the overall regional traffic congestion problem.

This hijacked act is a shill and a redistribution of unnecessary tax revenue to fat cat developers and entrenched bureaucrats.

Stop with your fibs, lies, distortions, and exaggerations.

PS: "Intact" is actually a word. "...in tact..." is wrong. Go back to 8th grade.
SG68
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June 25, 2012
Just take a look at what has happened to the Harry Reid high speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas and you will get a feel for where this is going .

If the federal government is involved then it will end up being a total disater.
SG68
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June 25, 2012
Oh ye of justifiable little faith--and the rest of us, too.

The only thing government has done well is to manage our military. I fear they will wind up messing that up , too!
RedBoard
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June 24, 2012
Let's start with this basic concept: There is no such thing as "Federal Dollars" anymore.

They are all Our Dollars, coming from a taxpayer somehow, somewhere -- either through direct taxation, the hidden tax of inflation (from newly printed money), or borrowed from elsewhere with interest paid by taxpayers.

If this train is a wise idea economically, it will be identified as such by the private sector -- as long as government will get out of the way.

But therein lies the rub. Government doesn't want to, or know how to get out of the way -- and hence we have failed stimulus programs and a stagnant economy.

Bottom line: Don't hold your breath for this train. A government version will cost way too much and be a taxpayer-funded black hole, while a private version would be so interfered with by government, the numbers would never work.

Until we voters (and government) figure out what governments true, essential role is, our economy will languish, and great opportunities will be missed. Period.
rjsnh
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June 24, 2012
For goodness sake, you act like this is some far fetched idea that has not been tested....Simply look "across the pond",as the Brits would say. Those of us who have traveled can attest to the success of this mode of transportation as a popular, easy and economical means of travel. And, the same can be said for light rail and subways in urban areas....quite simply, trains work to relieve congestion. If these forms of transportation or to be used in the 21st century we must invest in them sooner rather than later.
Timus
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June 27, 2012
I agree. How long can our approach to every problem be to do nothing. Traffic sucks. Do nothing. College too expensive. Do Nothing. Deficit climbing. Do nothing. Healthcare cost rising. Do nothing. Water shortages. Do nothing. Let's just go back to the dark ages where things were cheap. Life(what little life you had) wasn't easy but it was cheap.
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