Thud: Board member proposal for 1% raise given 0% support
by Lindsay Field
lfield@mdjonline.com
August 11, 2011 12:39 AM | 4372 views | 24 24 comments | 18 18 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — David Banks’ proposal to give Cobb County School District employees a 1 percent raise garnered no support at the school board’s Wednesday morning work session.

Board member Banks, who represents northeast Cobb, presented a resolution to the board requesting district staff receive a raise effective Jan. 1, 2012, and a negotiable salary for substitute teachers. Without support from the superintendent or fellow board members, the board decided not to move forward with the resolution.

The board also chose to delay any decisions regarding a rule change addressing the discipline, suspension and dismissal of district staff until the Aug. 25 board meeting.

As for Bank’s request, Dr. Michael Hinojosa said, “Although we appreciate Mr. Banks’ support improving our work with the employees, the administration does not feel like we have the resources to implement either of these recommendations … the administration does not believe it’s fiscally responsible, and so the administration would not be recommending approval of these two items.”

Banks said he requested the raise to make up for a 2 percent pay cut enacted in 2009 when the district moved to a balanced calendar that wasn’t negated when the board reverted to a traditional one in July.

“I’m discouraged that the board didn’t see the need to support their employees,” Banks said. “A budget as large as ours, you can find it. We need to do something for our employees.”

Banks also requested the board consider approving a minimum pay of $75 to $95 per day for substitute teachers.

“I think it makes sense to not only give the principal leeway to get the most qualified teacher but adequately compensate the individual who is substituting,” Banks said.

Banks said he determined that there needed to be more flexibility with pay after talking with educators in his district.

Substitute teachers on average earn $65 per day.

Board Chair Alison Bartlett recommended they consider revisiting the salary issues when they discuss next year’s budget beginning in October.

The board also moved forward, 5-1, with Banks dissenting, with the reapportionment map that Barlett had presented at the July 28 meeting.

Banks brought a second map to the work session but got no support. In this map, Walton High School, which Banks had previously moved into his district, remained in board member Scott Sweeney’s Post 6.

Banks also asked the board to not rush the voting to deliver Bartlett’s maps to the Cobb County delegation. He said he didn’t believe that legislators would have an opportunity to discuss the school district’s map in their special session that starts Monday.

“I think there is still a need to be talking to delegates,” Banks said. “ A lot of things are coming into play. There is no rush to do it because we have until January.”

In other business, CCSD Human Resources Chief Dr. Donald Dunnigan requested the board modify changes to an administrative rule that allows teachers to have representation with them during disciplinary hearings with administrators.

Bartlett tabled the matter until the board’s Aug. 25 meeting.

“I see some board members who are not real sure about where they stand here … we need to get better educated on these fact,” she said.
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Proof reader
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August 14, 2011
Please consider me for the job of being a proof reader. An obvious typo in this article. I believe you meant Dud not thud.
CCSD Foolishness
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August 12, 2011
Common sense has prevailed among our elected officials! Thank you! Maybe they could sell copies of the LipDub video to raise money for teacher raises.
catlady1
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August 12, 2011
No one should be a substitute if all they are thinking about is how much money they will make. I substitute and the school(Mabry Mioddle) I work at treats me very good. The faculty and staff are wonderful! Maybe it's because I actually care about the school, not about how much money I am making. What other job is there where you can say yes or no to it on a daily basis? Being a substitute should not be a career...it is for people looking to make our schools better for our kids.
More Money
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August 12, 2011
Cobb County School's Board of Education should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for the amount of pay that is given subs! They expect teachers who are certified to work for less than $9.00 an hour. That is one of the reasons subs do not put a lot of effort in the job.

Many subs have said that once they are on the campus of the schools, they are treated very poorly by other faculty and staff. All of this for less that $9.00 an hour!
Wrong eCobb dad...
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August 11, 2011
While GA is a right to work state, it does not mean that anyone can be fired at anytime for any reason. The entity must offer due process according to its own policies and procedures IF (the important word) it has produced and published them.

CCSD has published these and I have no problem with allowing a lawyer to be present during disciplinary matters to ensure due process.

Besides, I know one retired CCSD principle who had students regularly bring lawyers for student disciplinary meetings. I would expect that employees be given the same respect.

lechat
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August 11, 2011
They never seem to have a problem finding bonuses for those in charge, keeping a thick layer of "administrators" and I'll bet they've managed to cover increases in costs for cleaning supplies, light bulbs, etc. Teachers, though, who needs THEM?

Pols like to talk a good game about supporting teachers and education when they need votes, not so much when the time comes to match action with words.
tom p
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August 11, 2011
I've noticed that the county is doing all these nice to look at but utterly useless improvements all over the place, yet they are furloughing employees. Why not take the money being spent to brick turn lanes and use it for employee pay? County officials seem to take a lesson from the federal government. Do before you think.
saddened parent
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August 11, 2011
@Whiny- shows what you know - teachers do not SIT

at their desks to do the job!!!

WOW - HR just snuck that one in - so much for the "upbeat, cutsie video clip" to raise morale!!!

Looks like Cobb just keeps moving further south on I-75.....

eCobb Dad of 3
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August 11, 2011
Banks raised this issue so he could paint the other board members as not being supportive of the teachers. Otherwise, he would have asked for the raise during the budgetary process when it was proper to do so. He's clearly pandering to the teachers. Kudos to Mr. Hinojosa for shooting down the idea from the administration point of view.

As for the HR change on how disciplanary hearings are handled teachers need to come back to the real world. Georgia is a right to work state. Your employment can be terminated at any time for any reason just like any other Georgia citizen. You think you would have a right to representation during a disciplinary hearing out in the business world? I think not. Besides Bartlett didn't come out and support the idea but tabled it to learn more about which any prudent leader should do before making a final decision.
T2M
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August 11, 2011
The new HR allows an easier path to dispose of problems. No problem supporting that
anonymous
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August 11, 2011
do a district wide vending and cell tower contract and use all funds to cover the costs of an increase in salaries. Someone should watch those local funds very carefully, lots of room for corruption. You see it all the time on TV news.
anonymous
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August 11, 2011
So why do you need someone with you for a discipline meeting? Usually you know something is coming and you have screwed up, whether you want to admit it or not.
anonymous&informed
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August 11, 2011
Maybe Mr. Banks needs to really investigate Cell Phone tower money which principals have at their discretion, particularly in his schools. If he is so concerned about sub pay for particular courses maybe he needs to find out more. Perhaps, the working environment needs to be addressed with the principal. There are some miserable, fearful faculties who are "waiting out" the principals hoping they will be moved. Maybe cell tower money should be used fairly and not for one teacher or program or questionable uses.
ugagrad
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August 11, 2011
Banks is a "THUD". He has no credibility or power which he obviously doesn't see. Other posters were correct to see that he is just posturing. I am embarassed that the Republican good ole boys have supported this man, that is the only way he got elected in the first place. I do believe that the voters in Post five are now aware of him and what a dufus he is... can't wait to see who will replace him. (and not soon enough I might add)
WHINEY
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August 11, 2011
Teachers that are posting support of Duffus Banks or continuing to WHINE WHINE WHINE about your morale or the calendar that gave you a week every six weeks. At least you have a job, so sit down at your desk and do your job!!!!!!!!!!
Cobb Parent
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August 11, 2011
What planet are you from Mr. Banks? There is NO money for raises! Just like there isn't money for a new Central Office. Hello - is anyone in there??

Maybe this is just a ploy for getting re-elected but really, what are you thinking???
DavidBanks is a boob
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August 11, 2011
Ah, another glimpse into the politically motivated quest to set himself up for reelection. What a boob Banks is.

If Banks were truly motivated to increase teacher/substitute pay, he would have pursued it during the budget process. He didn't then because he knew there was no money for it. He is grandstanding now propped up by John Crooks' influence in the back ground egging him on to promote himself politically and to try and discredit his collegeaues. This is the only transparent thing about David Banks. Even his maps are politically motivated, he could care less about students or their parents.

David Banks is an embarrassment to the county, what would it take to make him go away? This is the same man who wanted to spend millions to build new administrative facilities for his Central Office buddies and Sanderson. If you will look at his voting record, he is not a conservative or Republican in any sense of the word. It's about power, kissing up and name recognition only.

People of Post 5, wake up! Do not reelect this guy, he will spend all of his own money to erect signs and believes he will win just by name recongition alone. Don't be fooled. Please pay attention and do the right thing for students - VOTE THIS IMBECILE OUT!!!!!
Banks supporter
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August 11, 2011
Teachers throughout the county, including me, support David Banks and his attemtps be the one voice of the teachers and general public. Thank you Mr. Banks, please keep up the great work!!!
West Cobb Resident
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August 11, 2011
David Banks continually embarrasses himself at these meetings. I can't imagine him getting re-elected.
Editorial Comment
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August 11, 2011
While we all knew that Mr.Banks' proposal would not fly, the editorial comment of the MDG was also inappropriate. The paper did not have to include the word "thud" in the headline. It was apparent, but did not need to be stated.
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