Hickory Lake residents want help moving
by Kathryn Malone and Brandon Wilson
kmalone@mdjonline.com; bwilson@mdjonline.com
December 02, 2010 12:00 AM | 3273 views | 31 31 comments | 22 22 recommendations | email to a friend | print
SMYRNA - Residents of Hickory Lakes Apartments say if the city wants to buy and demolish their homes, it should at least pay to help them relocate. City officials are considering incentives, but not likely money to move, a Smyrna spokeswoman said.

At a meeting Tuesday night with Hickory Lakes management company First Communities Management, frustrated residents sounded off about the city of Smyrna's plan to purchase and raze the crime-ridden, 726-unit complex off Old Concord Road near Windy Hill Road and South Cobb Drive. Another meeting hosted by the city is scheduled for tonight.

Hickory Lakes resident Rosemary Maruish said Tuesday's meeting at Welcome All Baptist Church located off Old Concord Road became heated.

"They had a lot of residents wound up," Maruish said, noting that the church's gymnasium, where the meeting was conducted, was packed with residents concerned about the future of their homes. "I was surprised with the rain pouring down like it was, I didn't expect that many people. I guess when your home is threatened you'll do anything. We had people who said they took off work to be there."

Maruish said many of the residents at Hickory Lakes are on fixed incomes, with children, and can't afford moving. She said she and several other residents would like to see the city help pay for residents' moving costs.

"When the city of Marietta shut down the projects, each person was given a voucher and $1,000," Maruish said. "If they're giving $9.4 million for the property and $4 million to tear it down, why can't they help us? This just seems like the city of Smyrna did a poor job, or no job at all, of researching this project. They think that they can throw us away along with the building."

Another Hickory Lakes resident who has lived in the complex for three years said Tuesday night's meeting was "terrible - the people were very upset."

Talking with the Journal outside her apartment Wednesday, the woman, who did not want to give her name because she said management had told all residents to not talk to the media, said she thinks it would be fair for tenants to receive two free months of rent in order to find another place to live.

She said management has told people that if they try to move out before their leases are up, it would be considered a breach of contract and would affect their credit scores.

"We're stuck between a rock and a hard place," she said. "And this is right around Christmastime."

She said about 150 people attended Tuesday's tense meeting, in which she said there were about 20 police officers.

"One lady said, 'I'm going to end up on the streets with my kids,'" she said.

The resident also said she had talked with a lady who just signed a lease in October without knowledge that the complex is slated to be demolished.

"They just took her money knowing they are going to sell it," she said.

Journal reporters attempted to speak to the property managers working in the leasing office at Hickory Lakes on Wednesday, but were told to call First Communities Management headquarters. A call to Cathy Lucas, the regional manager at First Communities Management, went unreturned on Wednesday.

Smyrna City Council voted Oct. 5 to buy the 94-building apartment complex, which sits on 48 acres of land in northwest Smyrna, for $9.5 million. The Smyrna Downtown Development Authority plans to issue revenue bonds to cover the purchase and demolition of the complex. Razing the buildings is expected to cost the city $4 million.

The city is having an informational meeting about the purchase of Hickory Lakes tonight at 7 at the Smyrna Community Center. Smyrna spokeswoman Jennifer Bennett said First Communities also plans to have further informational meetings for its residents.

Maruish said the management company said it plans to hold an apartment fair at the Welcome All Baptist Church to help citizens find apartment complexes to move into.

Smyrna expects to close on the property by Dec. 15. Bennett said, according to Hickory Lakes leases, it would have to give residents at least 30 days notice to move out of the property, but she said the city hopes to give them longer than that.

When asked if the city was considering helping Hickory Lakes residents relocate, Bennett said the city is trying to work out some kind of incentive, but she said it was too early to specify what that would mean.

"Right now the city is looking at some incentive - probably not cash to move," Bennett said.

Marietta Housing Authority Executive Director Ray Buday said the city is not legally obligated to financially assist residents to relocate. He likened the situation at Hickory Lakes to when the city of Marietta purchased Preston Chase apartments on Franklin Road in February. In the case of Preston Chase, Marietta City Council contracted with MHA to help relocate tenants, although they did not provide any monetary help.

"If it's like Preston Chase, they should not be required to offer moving expenses legally, but it's up to them," Buday said.

In the past, MHA has torn down various housing projects and offered tenants vouchers and moving expenses to relocate within Cobb, Buday explained. But that money came from the U.S. Department of Federal Housing and Urban Development, and was given to public housing residents.
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once
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August 02, 2011
i do feel sorry for the good people that live there. Lived there till 1988. The property turned into drug infested den. It`s away of getting rid of it. If no one believes me just see if you got the guts to drive in there
nurse00
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January 20, 2011
I think some of you ignorant posters are so dumb and thoughtless.You reap what you sow.You never know when you will get caught up in a situation like this.I live in hickory lakes and did not realize it was a bad area because I moved from another city far away.I thought this would be a great start.HL had been moving residents in without telling them of the upcoming sale only weeks before the sale.They should be responsible for moving expenses when they actually deceived ppl into signing lease stating the property was not for sale and was a great area to live.You ignorant ppl should get a life.And by the way I am a licensed nurse and make great money, I just don't have extra money to keep moving when I just moved in. Hl was described to me as a nice area by the HL office mgmt.
A Taxpayer
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December 03, 2010
Dear Argonaut,

No, you're right. Jesus didn't make any of us poor. Nor did He make any of us rich.

I would strongly disagree with your statement that we choose (to become poor) on our own. There are many who live in poverty who would prefer not to; it is not only disingenuous, but in many instances, downright cruel, to suggest that laziness or lack of gumption is the sole reason for poverty. I grew up in poverty; I chose not to continue that lifestyle for myself. At the same time, I'm keenly aware that luck (or the grace of God, if you're so minded) accounted for a portion of my success.
argonaut
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December 03, 2010
To A Taxpayer:

Jesus did not make any of us poor. We chose to do that on our own.
anonymous
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December 02, 2010
Not everyone that lives in Hickory Lakes gets foodstamps and help paying bills. They have jobs and pay taxes. They have to live where they can afford to live. Max thinks he can make Smyrna a little Vinnings All that will happen is the land will just set like Belmont Hills & jonquil plazza we need a new mayor is what i think
A Taxpayer
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December 02, 2010
To Truth Hurts and the other meanies on this blog who don't seem to have a heart- It seems that you believe the poor don't deserve respect or to be treated with dignity. The good Lord made all of us, not just the rich. . .and as a wise person once said, He must love the poor very much since He made so many of them."

Actually, since I'm thinking in a Biblical vein this afternoon, maybe you would benefit from a re-reading of the parable about the Pharisee who prayed in front of everyone because he was so proud of himself. . .
Landlord Tenant
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December 02, 2010
If any residents have questions regarding their rights as tenants (and the responsibility of the landlord) they can contact Metro Fair Housing Services, Inc. and speak with the Intake Counselor. 404-765-3940 or 404-765-3985 In most situations the new owner of a property must honor the existing leases. This means that the residents have rights and ought feel comfortable speaking up for them.
homeownernextdoor
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December 02, 2010
I did not declare everyone at HL to be incompetent wellfare abusing druggies, to the contrary, I paraphrased a post by an actual HL resident whose first hand knowledge is that the working population at HL is far outnumbered by the less than desireable element. I also stated I thought the current owners should let those who they deceived out of the lease, and give a deadline after the holidays,(not because they legally have to, but because it's the right thing to do. So TIPMOM, stop putting works in my mouth. Since you asked the question TIPMOM, for the last 2 years I lost my job 2 years ago and my husband's income has dropped 30 per cent a year each of the last two. That's where I've been. Can you hear gunfire from your house TIPMOM? Because people die at HL and if the city spending the money can save a life it's worth it. Ask the families of the 2 people who were shot there in just the last year.
LawPatrol
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December 02, 2010
Tipmom wrote,

"My home flooded last year, and I lost everything. Believe it or not, it took Cobb County a long time to help us. Is it my fault when I lose everything that I work hard for at no fault of my own? Give me a break!!!!"

Tipmom,

Did the Cobb County Government have a direct cause in your house being flooded?

If it did not, then it is NOT responsible for helping you out under any circumstance.

Only if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Government action caused the flooding, you do not have a "legal" leg to stand on.

As far as your last post, hoping that I was not in law enforcement, the answer is NO, I'm not.

The sign-in name refers to an act of patrolling the laws as they are written, and the case laws that uphold those laws for constitutionality.

You need to start thinking outside the LIBERAL box, and realize the world of "entitlement" is found only in the minds of those who can only get their "goody goody" feeling, by spending someone elses money, without regards for those who have worked hard for the money your ilk spend.

LP.

dixie-boy
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December 02, 2010
To all those who live at Hickory Lake, "MERRY CHRISTMAS". I can hardly wait until we have more empty property like Belmont Hills, Smyrna Plaza and now Hickory Lake.
Tipmom
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December 02, 2010
@Law Patrol, what in the world are you talking about? I hope you are not law enforcement because ignorance is what is ruining USA now. You are not even making any sense.
Tipmom
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December 02, 2010
@homeowner & pabjr, are you guys serious???? So, you have judged and declared that everyone in Hickory Lake are incompetent, welfare abusing, druggies??? Really??? Just because people receive foodstamps does not mean they don't work. Where have you been the past two years??? Many families have been losing their jobs and pay grades to this worthless economy. News Flash people: Taxes still do come out of paychecks; whether you are on foodstamps, WIC, or not. I love how people old this "I'm greater" attitude. The residents have a right to fair housing treatment. This is not the same as Foreclosure people. The city decided to buy these slums, and Hickory Lake owners were happy to get rid of it. Stop speaking on what you have never known about. My heart goes out to the residence, and I will be happy to assist where ever I can. My home flooded last year, and I lost everything. Believe it or not, it took Cobb County a long time to help us. Is it my fault when I lose everything that I work hard for at no fault of my own? Give me a break!!!!
Watcher...
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December 02, 2010
This is a perfect example of why governments should get out of and stay out of the development business!

Smyrna will now have three major properties that are vacant, with little hope of quick renewal.

For a humanitarian perspective, this is going to become a terrible situation for these Residents.

Remember the phrase..."We're here from the government and we're here to help!" God help us all!
Tired of Ignorance
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December 02, 2010
Through no fault of their own, the residents of Hickory Lakes are being forced to move. The management of Hickory Lakes are still taking rent money and signing new leases when they knew well in advance of the mandatory closure. To add insult to injury, they're threatening to penalize the residents who are trying to move out by "dinging their credit for breach of contract"! Residents of Hickory Lakes start a class action lawsuit again the management of the complex for allowing the complex to get into such a state that the city of Smyrna mandated it be closed. Your physical safety and peace of mind has been impacted.

To all of the ignorant people who have posted comments without know all the facts, I truly hope you're never in this predicament. I am quite sure you'll cry foul and look for "a handout" with the quickness.
mk-get the facts
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December 02, 2010
The apartment management needs to be very cautious what they tell their residents what they can & cannot do. They have absolutely no right to tell their residents not to talk to the media.

Only a judge has the authority to order jurors to be sequestered & /or not speak,to media, watch or read the news. An attorney can only reccomend their client not to speak to the media. An apartment management does not have this authority over its tenants, whatsoever!This needs to be looked into, MDJ!
rjsnh
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December 02, 2010
According to this MDJ article "The Smyrna Downtown Development Authority plans to issue REVENUE BONDS (emphasis added)to cover the purchase and demolition of the complex." The question MDJ reporters and citizens need to ask is WHAT IS THE REVENUE STREAM that will pay off the bonds...in other words where is the Smyrna Downtown Development Authority getting the revenue to pay principle and interest on the $15 million dollars they are borrowing? Certainly not from rental income as the apartments are to be demolished, so where???
That driver
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December 02, 2010
I'm always amazed with the stupid, selfish comments that are posted with the Marietta Journal. The "hurray for me & to hell with everybody else" attitude is what's really wrong with this country. And that especially goes for the management of Hickory Lake who hold folks to a lease when they know that they can't honor the terms of it themselves. The way they're handling this reminds me of the 3rd class passengers on the Titanic who weren't given access to the lifeboats because they were reserved for the rich elite. Maybe having driven a school bus to these apartments gives me a different perspective as I've seen these people as real & not some faceless catagory of lowlife dregs to be squeezed for every penny & then thrown out like yesterdays newspaper. Lighten up & give "em a break.
mk- it's sad!
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December 02, 2010
I am assuming my 1st comment might not appear so I will not name names of the Smyrna Downtown Development Authority in this comment,.. but I do urge all residents to please educate yourselves about who is REALLY running the city of Smyrna,.. behind CLOSED doors.

I attended this meeting Tuesday nite. The show of POLICE FORCE & POWER was absurd, ominous & totally uncalled for. To get through the gate to attend the meeting, you had to walk past a Smyrna Police SUV Cannine Unit, w/ barking dog inside! There were @ least 5 uniformed officers inside, plain clothed officers, private security patrol, 8 police officers outside & 4 patrol cars! This show of force should be alarming to ALL Smyrna residents & looked into.

These people need to know their rights & be treated fairly!

They would not allow me to record the meeting!

Where were the news reporters?
truth hurts
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December 02, 2010
Typical democrat mentality, get a wiff of free money and they are knocking down the door. The fixed income rosemary is talking about is the unemployment, wics and other entitlemnts that most democrats are on instead of working for a living. For those not familiar with that area, there are countless other apartment complexes within walking distance of that one. Give the deadbeats nothing!
anonymous
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December 02, 2010
I am a resident and I'm not asking for money from anyone. I do not live off of assistance of any kind. We got stuck here because we were new to the area and were not aware that the area was so bad. ALL that we have asked is that the complex work with us so that we can get into a new place or at least get it started. THEY refuse to even give us a copy of our rental history so that we can begin the process of looking for a new apartment. They want a 60 day notice, which is stupid b/c they won’t own it in 15 days and they want $1200 just to get that information b/c we are “breaking our lease.” So we will wait for the notice from the city as I was told by them that we should have by the 20th and go from there. But I can’t wait to move! The way all of this was handled was very childish. Hickory Lake telling us either they aren't selling (lying), signing new residents up in November and then finally telling us that they are in negotiations but we aren't to talk to the city about anything and threatening us if we break our lease 5 days before the sale is final. The WORST was to find it out through the media and them not to have the common courtesy to tell us themselves!
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