The people spoke, Ryan doesn't care
by Kevin_Foley
 Politics Progressive
March 12, 2013 04:59 PM | 1200 views | 15 15 comments | 11 11 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink
Eddie Munster seems to believe the 2012 election, in which he and his running mate were decisively trounced, never happened.
 
In an Electoral College landslide, Americans rejected Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and all their little ideas. A big part of what they said no to was the celebrated Ryan budget, which Mitt characterized as "marvelous" when he brought the young congressman onto his ticket.
 
Upon further review, however, the public came to understand Ryan's budget would eviscerate the social safety net while sparing the wealthiest Americans any sacrifices at all.
 
But that was four months ago. We're moving on, right? Wrong.
 
Ryan unveiled his so-called "Pathway to Prosperity" budget today and it's nearly identical to the one voters nixed. It will cut spending by $4.6 trillion through 2023 by killing or maiming most everything Obama has been able to do since taking office in 2009.
 
You have to admire Ryan's arrogance. He represents Wisconsin's 1st District, a blighted Rust Belt backwater, but thinks he's Master of the Universe.
 
Ryan lunched with the president last week as part of Obama's charm offensive with select members of congress and reportedly the two had a productive meeting.
But now Ryan is behaving like he's the one in the White House and it's Obama with his cap in hand. Ryan says it's about time for Obama to stop "campaigning" and come over to his way of thinking.
 
Then Ryan, who fancies himself presidential material in 2016, started campaigning. "People do not find happiness in grim isolation or by government fiat," he opined. "They find it through friendship — through free, vibrant exchange with the people around them. They find it through achievement. They find it in their families and neighborhoods, their places of worship and youth groups. They find it in a healthy mix of self-fulfillment and belonging.”
 
How would Ryan know any of this? He's been inside the Beltway since before he graduated college 20 years ago, feeding at the public trough and producing budgets his fat cat benefactors call marvelous.
 
What Ryan's budget does do is eliminate Obamacare, which even House Speaker John Boehner calls the law of the land. So that's D.O.A.
 
Medicaid would lose almost a trillion dollars. Food stamps and agricultural subsidies would be cut by $31 billion. Pell grants would be chopped. Ryan was forced to back off his threats to voucherize Medicare. He'd prefer you shop for health insurance with your $6,000 government voucher when you're 88 years old, but that'll have to wait.
 
No mention anywhere of closing tax loopholes for wealthy Americans or big corporations, so those deductions for private jets are safe if Ryan gets his way.
 
Fortunately, his budget proposal is as meaningless as Ryan's presidential ambitions.
 
The tax increases Obama wrested from Republicans in January along with sequestration cuts are already putting a dent in the deficit. The Senate will present its budget next week, one that's sure to be in line with what the majority of Americans think is reasonable.
 
There are even signs that some Republicans in the House have begun growing backbones, sick of the self-serving games guys like Ryan are playing. Chances are good a true bipartisan budget could be forged, one that continues to reduce the deficit without putting the entire burden on the poor, elderly and middle class.
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Lib in Cobb
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March 19, 2013
@Marie: Being prepared for any debate is always a good idea. Reading from what is written is not out of the ordinary to emphasize any point, it is permitted in every debate I have witnessed. Reading the text of let's say a newly minted law, ensures accuracy.

Accuracy is not something you are familiar with.
Kevin Foley
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March 18, 2013
Oh Marie, really? Is that what you think? Gosh, I seem to get a lot of views!
Marie in Marietta
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March 17, 2013
Kevin, you speak all the time and nobody really cares. I just learned that you had to bring printed materials and read from them in your debate with Bob Barr! This cracks us up. It is the same way you write - you restate what you are told by the Maddow gang, but no nothing yourself.
CobbCoGuy
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March 17, 2013
Perhaps someone else can help me reconcile Obama's about-face?

[crickets]
Kevin Foley
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March 15, 2013
@CobbCoGuy - Turn off Fox News. The economy is continuing to rebound. The Dow is going crazy. Corporate profits are sky high. Almost 40 straight months of job growth. The deficit is in decline.

You need to stop cheering for the defeat of America.
CobbCoGuy
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March 15, 2013
Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit; the Senate caved and produced a budget!

But, Democrat friends, help me understand and reconcile Obama's words. I'm sure the subtleties of his message are not getting through my tin foil hat.

*** July 3, 2008, campaign event in Fargo, ND...

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China...[blah blah blah]...so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back.

That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

*** March 13, 2013, interview with Stephanopoulos...

"...we don’t have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. In fact, for the next ten years, it’s gonna be in a sustainable place..."

Since the election, Obama has been slamming the Republicans at every turn. The sequester hurricane was exposed to be nothing more than a whirly wind. Certain journalists - who are no conservatives - criticize the White House for bullying. Obama's approval ratings drop. Obama tries to make nice with Republicans by taking them to dinner [Note: it was reported that Obama ordered arugula salad and his Republican guests ordered sirloin, spanked once on each side and thrown on the plate]. The Senate produces a budget with deficits as far as the eye can see and Obama says it don't matter.

Lessee, what's next on the plate. Ah, yes, the Continuing Resolution.

Interesting times, eh, Mr. Foley?
Kevin Foley
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March 14, 2013
@ CobbCoGuy - Now you're worried about what's fair???

@ Rhinehart - You know what's meaningless and mindless crap? CPAC. Your failed candidate is the featured speaker tomorrow. Congrats!
Steve Rhinehart
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March 14, 2013
The Democratic talking heads haven't been able to come up with a budget in four years, in defiance of the law, but they are quick to criticize one somebody else come up with.

Typical liberal crap. Meaningless and mindless.
CobbCoGuy
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March 13, 2013
Our Democrat friends want life to be fair.

Let's explore one pillar of Obamacare to see if it's "fair." That pillar is community rating.

Suppose you are 30 years old, eat brocoli for breakfast and go to the gym 3 times a week. Your neighbor, Joe Six Pack, is 58 years old, 5 foot 8, weighs 350, drinks beer for breakfast and plays poker for excercise.

Who is the bigger health risk? Who SHOULD pay a higher health insurance premium?

Under "community rating" you both will pay the same premium, except, maybe, for a limited (not actuarially based) age differential.

Is that fair?
CobbCoGuy
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March 13, 2013
Go to your favorite online book seller and search "Nick Tate." Mr. Tate prepared a tome entitled "ObamaCare Survival Guide."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!? SURVIVAL GUIDE?!?!?!?

Is this legislation so bad, so convoluted, so Byzantine, that we need "survival guides?"

Is there something wrong with this picture?

CobbCoGuy
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March 13, 2013
And there's another article by AP Business Writer Tom Murphy describing the upcoming "sticker shock" folks will see on their insurance bills. Search "ap tom murphy sticker shock."

For those who want the Gubmint to solve problems, you got it.
CobbCoGuy
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March 13, 2013
And therein is the problem - the GOVERNMENT estimates...

Ya really think the Gubmint does a swell job estimating? From a report released by the Senate Joint Economic Committee, original estimates made in 1965 for Medicare Part A predicted that annual outlays would be about $9B by 1990. The actual 1990 Part A spending? $67B

Read the article, folks. Leviathan grows.
Kevin Foley
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March 13, 2013
@CobbCoGuy - That's right, if you need financial assistance to by insurance, you fill out an application to determine if you qualify.

From the AP article you cite: "The government estimates its online application will take a half hour to complete, on average. If you need a break, or have to gather supporting documents, you can save your work and come back later. The paper application is estimated to take an average of 45 minutes."

I just filled out an application for private health insurance through my company. It took me well over an hour. So what's the big deal?
CobbCoGuy
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March 13, 2013
There is an AP article by Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar describing the process for enrolling in Obamacare.

For those who want the Gubmint to solve problems, you got it.

Lib in Cobb
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March 13, 2013
To further demonstrate the arrogance of Ryan, he was reminded by Mittens that it was Ryan who was chosen to be VP not president.

Ryan will be remembered in our history as a footnote, unlike President Obama who will always be recalled at the 44th President of The United States.

Ryan's home town was carried by Obama, Ryan's district was a narrow win for the GOP, the state of Wisconsin was carried by Obama by a 7 point margin. Ryan will continue his fight against The Affordable Care Act which is the law of the land. That decision was made on November 6th, 2012.
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