Borden suffering from gun derangement syndrome
by Kevin_Foley
 Politics Progressive
January 07, 2013 03:07 PM | 1667 views | 8 8 comments | 15 15 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

When he doesn't like what I write, Pete Borden likes to call me a liar. He has again leveled a charge that I lied in my recent column on the need to make gun safety part of the public safety discussion.

Here's his incendiary statement (emphasis added):

"Foley makes the erroneous statement that you can walk into almost any gun show and buy 'assault weapons', high capacity magazines and ammunition, no questions asked. I will not dignify that by calling it an untruth. I will call it what it is. It is a bald faced lie. Dealers at gun shows are bound by the same regulations requiring background checks, as they are when they are in their places of business. Since Foley is only parroting something he has heard, I have no way of knowing whether he is aware of that or not. But, I repeat, the statement is a lie."

Again, Mr. Borden, unlike you, I am far too good a writer and commentator not to do my research before speaking out on an issue.

I didn't say "every gun show." I qualified my statement sby aying, "almost any gun show," but that's beside the point.

From the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence web site, here's the breakdown on the so-called "gun show loophole":

Though commonly referred to as the “Gun Show Loophole,” the “private sales” described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.

Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.

Mr. Borden again shoots himself in the foot playing ready, fire, aim. Nice try, Peter. I'm waiting for my apology.

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CobbCoGuy
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January 10, 2013
Fair enough, Mr. Borden; I did click on it, didn't I?

Keep at it and, have a good'un.
Pete Borden
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January 10, 2013
To CobbCoGuy. I understand where you are coming from,but realize that these bl;ogs are not being "published" in the real sense. You have to choose to open and read them. So, if you are bored with them, just bypass them.

It is just that Foley spouts such left wing propaganda and I can';t, in good concience, let it go unchallenged. Even if he is the only person wo reads it. he needs to know that he cannot gp unchallenged. I am sure Kevin is a nice guy, and maybe someday, I will meet him. He is however, gorssly misguided.

BTW, I enjoy reading your comments.
CobbCoGuy
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January 09, 2013
I wish the MDJ would not publish these feuds you two guys have. It's boring and, as you can see, other than y'all, it does not generate many comments.
Pete Borden
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January 08, 2013
I know Kevin, but I keep doing it anyway.
Lib in Cobb
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January 08, 2013
The US Supreme Court has ruled that it will not hear the appeal from the Guns and Jesus crowd involving carrying guns in churches. Does this legislation from the "I Can Hear Dog Whistle" crowd include synagogues, mosques and Buddhist temples, or only Christian churches?
Kevin Foley
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January 08, 2013
There's no credit in besting a fool, as the saying goes, Pete.

Lib in Cobb
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January 08, 2013
Kevin: It always amazing that the "Arm Everyone Society" rarely has any suggestions involving gun control legislation, while at the same time being uniformed about gun show loop holes in a variety of states.

Current TV did a piece on gun show loopholes which depicted, via hidden cameras, how lax the controls are when doing business at a gun show with private sellers. These are the sellers in the parking lot of these shows selling what you want for cash and no background checks at all. The licensed gun retailers located inside the building are required to do the quick check and register the buyers.
Pete Borden
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January 07, 2013
Don't hold you brearh waiting for an apology, because I did not call you a liar. In fact I made particular mention of the fact that I have no way of knowing whether you knew the statement was a falsehood or not. A lie requires knowledge that the statement is false, otherwise, it is just repeating a falsehood.

As to the requirements for puchasing a gun, either at a dealer or a gun show, please refer to the Federal Firearms Licensing requirements.

Your statement would have held some validity had you used private sales of firearms, instead of gun shows. That is the only loophole.

I notice you failed to address all the other inaccuraces in your column.

As to why I don't like what you write, I should think that is pretty obvious. It is liberal propaganda, from one who gets all his information from the liberal media, does not verify it, but just repeats it, under his name, asssuming that will give it some validity.

The readers need to know that.
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