Shiloh United Methodist Church is taking a stand
by Katy Ruth Camp
krcamp@mdjonline.com
November 02, 2009 01:00 AM | 2370 views | 34 34 comments | 36 36 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Pastor Bill Floyd of Shiloh United Methodist Church in Kennesaw stands outside the church, which faces the intersection of Cherokee Street and Jiles Road that the county is working on widening.
Pastor Bill Floyd of Shiloh United Methodist Church in Kennesaw stands outside the church, which faces the intersection of Cherokee Street and Jiles Road that the county is working on widening.
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KENNESAW - For the second time in its 177-year-old history, Shiloh United Methodist Church is finding itself in the way of road construction.

The simple white church building, built in 1932, is situated at the intersection of Cherokee Street and Jiles Road. In the 1960s, members say, the building was moved back about half an acre so the county could build the Jiles Road intersection.

This time, as the county is widening Jiles so that three lanes of traffic can turn left onto Cherokee, directly in front of the church, members don't know where to go.

"We've tried reaching out to anyone and everyone we can, and we're told things that are promising or hopeful, but then they change their minds and tell us something else," said Bill Floyd, pastor to the church's 104 members.

A key issue in the conflict is the traffic light at Jiles and Cherokee, and whether the church's main driveway can remain there.

Floyd said engineers first told him the church would be able to keep both the right driveway and the traffic light. Now, he says, the county intends to do away with the right driveway and its traffic light, and will instead make the church's other driveway into a right-turn-only in and out.

That means drivers heading south on Cherokee Street toward the church would have to make a U-turn to get to the church.

"I can't see all the 80-year-olds in my congregation trying to make U-turns to get into the church, then try to turn right out of the church with three turning lanes coming their way," Floyd said. "That's far less safe than leaving our red light in."

County officials would not comment because the church has a civil suit pending against the county in Cobb Superior Court.

The county has purchased the third of an acre it needs for $295,740 but Floyd said that is not enough money for the church to relocate and rebuild.

"We may be small, but we're going to stand up for ourselves and demand to be given an option that's fair. We're doing this for us, and for anyone this may happen to in the future," Floyd said.

Church members would be happy to sell the property for commercial development, but the county apparently doesn't want that.

In 2008, the city of Kennesaw granted the property commercial zoning, and the church signed a sales contract with developer Brandon Ashkouti for $3.3 million. But church members say the county then said the traffic light easement would be removed if the church sold to a commercial developer, leaving them few options.

Without the traffic light, Ashkouti had no choice but to pull out of the contract, said the church's broker, Ross Westbrook, and the church is left with a property that has no practical access point and therefore cannot be sold as a commercial property at a reasonable price.

Westbrook said that Ashkouti hired several engineers to come up with different plans for the intersection that would be favorable to both the county and the church, but that the county never considered the plans.

In the lawsuit, the church is seeking either for the traffic light and driveway to remain for any future commercial use, or for $2 million to cover some of the value lost without the traffic light.

Dot White of Kennesaw, who has been a member of the church since 1945, said she feels the church members are being mistreated because of their small size and budget.

"If they're going to go through with this expansion, I understand that they need the land, but I just don't understand how Cobb County can sit back and see us be treated in such a manner. We only want something that's fair, and instead we've spent thousands of dollars on lawyer fees because we can't get any answers," White said.

Floyd said that the church serves more than 300 families a month with its food ministry program, but the litigation costs may force an end to such programs. Floyd says the church has spent more than $100,000 in lawyer fees.

In addition, Floyd said that the congregation will decline drastically in size if the church does not receive a favorable settlement from the lawsuit.

"If we lose members and can't pay our apportionments and function as an active church, the United Methodist Church Conference will shut us down," Floyd said. "So it's really more than a lawsuit - we're fighting to keep our church family."
comments (34)
« anonymous523 wrote on Thursday, Nov 05 at 10:05 AM »
This is unfortunate for all of the church members and the community. I hope that the County and DOT step up and talk to the church and come up with a workable resolution.
« anonymous wrote on Wednesday, Nov 04 at 04:54 PM »
I am a member of this church.I can not believe this happening. This will tear this church apart. What about the food pantry and all the families.

This will effect not just the church . It will effect the pantry as well. Also for the older people in the church. Cobb DOT leave the church alone.
« anonymous wrote on Tuesday, Nov 03 at 09:51 AM »
The proposed widening of Jiles/Cherokee Street isn't what everybody thinks it is. To my knowledge the plan is to have 3 lanes turning left onto Cherokee Street which sounds really good. What Cobb County DOT isn't telling you is that Cherokee Street will go back to two lanes at the fire station and there are no plans to widen Cherokee Street or even add an additional on-ramp to I-75S. For millions of dollars Cobb DOT is only moving the bottleneck from where it is now to in front of the firestation. I would think they could figure out a better resolution for congestion issue and leave our church alone.
« anonymous wrote on Tuesday, Nov 03 at 09:45 AM »
I attend this small church and truly believe we were called to operate our food pantry. The pantry is open the 1st and 3rd Saturday of each month feeding 150 families each time. There have been numerous times our food pantry would not have food left and we would wonder if we would be able to open the next time. God has always provided and we have never had to close or even reduce the time we are open. God has always provided for our food pantry and church. Now we are having to fight to keep what we feel God wants us to do. How can people in Cobb County sleep at night knowing what they are doing to this community?
« Sharon Normand wrote on Tuesday, Nov 03 at 01:22 AM »
I am praying that Cobb DOT will do the right thing and either leave Shiloh's light or pay an amount that will totally cover relocating the church. I am also passing this on to several prayer groups for additional support. May justice prevail!
« anonymous wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 10:27 PM »
This church helps the community and I do not believe that Cobb County should close it to widen roads, this will only cause more trouble and more safety precautions. LEAVE THE CHURCH ALONE!
« A friend of a member wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 10:05 PM »
I am a friend of a member and know how much church means to ones life. There are friendships, faith, love & family there. Memories & futures to share. Please try to ensure a fair deal is made and consider the families & people that have been supported by this church & its members in the past. Please do the right thing.
« Allison Mackey wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 09:05 PM »
This is wrong on so many levels. The Cobb County government should flat out be ashamed of themselves. Lets post to facebook and twitter and see how far social networking can go to help save this little church!
« STW wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 08:37 PM »
Shiloh UMC deserves more respect from the Cobb DOT. They are beacons of light that reach out to the community with the Daily Bread food pantry. Many people in need have been fed because of their generosity. Shame on you Cobb DOT!!
« Turkeyhater wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 08:02 PM »
The food pantry can't hand out turkeys for Thanksgiving this year. All the turkeys are working for the Cobb DOT.
« miss spent wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 07:57 PM »
This is disgusting! I am glad this matter is getting some publicity. I hope the church wins out! SHAME on the county and the DOT.
« Cobb Taxpayer wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 06:07 PM »
Chairman Olens and commissioner Goreham need to step up, provide leadership and do the right thing ! Surely they can figure a fair and equitable way to deal with this "progress". Bet a quarter they would never take this action regarding one of Cobb's mega churches - far too many voters !
« Concerned Citizen wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 05:59 PM »
Ipray the Lord gives this Church everything it needs for it's legal battle.
« anonymous wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 05:33 PM »
Why don't these city officials attend church there and see the love for God that exists. This is not a young congregation, but certainly one that is needed. Let's think about PEOPLE and their feelings instead of new roads which have no feelings!
« Sarah Myers wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 05:11 PM »
I've been a member of Shiloh UMC for about 8 years. I was married in that little building, but it is the people there that are the true church. The biggest shame would to see that family be ripped apart, and the impact that would have on the community. Ask the Starbucks across the street... ask Johnny's pizza... is Shiloh an important contributer to the society? They'll assure you that it is.

I moved away about three months ago, and I shudder to imagine coming home to find my church abandoned.
« Jane B. Lathem wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 04:57 PM »
I stand with Shiloh UMC. I think it is absolutely SHAMEFUL the way the county has behaved toward the church. This church has served their community and their Lord faithfully for over 100 years. There are some things far more important than the widening of a road. Evidently the county is more interested in the businesses in the area than in the church.

Shiloh needs to be treated fairly and Cobb County needs to step up and behave honorably.
« anonymous wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 04:28 PM »
Thank you for printing an article that tells part of Shiloh UMC's side of the story. This is a small church doing good work for the community. Although Cobb County certainly has the right to use its eminent domain power, it must pay fair market value for the property it takes. Unfortunately, the Cobb DOT has chosen not to do so here, and to fight Shiloh UMC every step of the way. What a shameful use of tax dollars.
« Charlie Wright wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 03:54 PM »
This is an outrage. This lovely church and it's needs are being ignored.
« anonymous wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 03:44 PM »
I recently asked DOT why they were taking our land and here is an excerpt of the response they sent me:

"We have considered impacts to existing businesses if the roadway were shifted away from the church and have found this would cause elimination of numerous parking spaces on three parcels having impacts to the operation of the businesses. These impacts would create costs beyond the simple value of the land acquired."

This is a direct quote from the email and nowhere do they mention what harm it will be doing to the church.

« GaPaPa wrote on Monday, Nov 02 at 03:41 PM »
I have preached at this beautiful little church and Rev. Floyd is a long time friend! I also have family there! I pray that this matter can be settled in an equitable manner and that the church can continue to serve the community as it now does!