Methodists - They’re more than a match for secularists
by Dick Yarbrough
June 20, 2012 01:38 AM | 702 views | 26 26 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Dick Yarbrough
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I received a press release last week from the Secular Coalition for America, a group of “atheists, agnostics, humanists, freethinkers and other nontheistic Americans” announcing plans to establish a chapter in Georgia to lobby state lawmakers.

Among the things they don’t like in our state are the annual Clergy Day at the State Capitol and a law that “requires” that “In God We Trust” be printed on license plates. They need to do their homework on this one. There is no law that requires “In God We Trust.” That is an option available to anyone that wishes to have it. The Secular Coalition also doesn’t approve of the Legislature opening their sessions in prayer. Please don’t go there. Our Legislature clearly needs all the help they can get, divine or otherwise.

Ironically, I read the press release while attending the North Georgia Conference of the Methodist Church in Athens, the Classic City of the South and home of the University of Georgia, the oldest state-chartered university in the nation. (Can I get an Amen?)

The conference meets annually to conduct the business of the Methodist Church in North Georgia. The South Georgia Conference does the same thing at its gathering in Macon.

I wish the Secular Coalition folks had been there. They would have been warmly welcomed by a group of loving Christians and by the time the Rev. Eddie Fox, World Director of Evangelism for the Methodist Church, got through preaching to them, they would have been standing and whooping like the rest of us. Methodists can whoop it up when they want to.

To understate things greatly, Eddie Fox can preach a lick or two. Even Billy Graham says so and I would come a lot closer to believing what Billy Graham says than a group of nontheistic Americans, whatever that is.

Bishop Michael Watson guided us smoothly through three days of preaching, praying, budgets, recognitions and no small amount of pontifications. (And, yes, Methodists can pontificate, too.) Some of the discussions were a little esoteric for me, but for the most part I learned a lot. Mainly, I learned of all the good works taking place in the Methodist Church in Georgia and all over the world. This is what the church is supposed to be about — feeding the hungry, tending to the poor, the sick, the elderly, the homeless and bringing the Christian message to the unchurched. That is why I get impatient with people who get hung up on narrow interpretations of the Bible and think their way is the “right way” and the only way. Horse feathers. The church isn’t about using the Bible to prove who is right and who is wrong. That’s God’s decision. The church is about caring for and helping those in need.

As a public service, it is my duty to announce to my many Baptist friends that we Methodists ordained a number of new ministers last week including (you guessed it) several women. After the service, I immediately rushed to Sanford Stadium to see if God had unleashed a plague of locusts to devour the hedges but all seemed well. I guess God likes women preachers as much as I do.

One of the most poignant moments of the week was the memorial service honoring those clergy who had passed away since last year’s conference. Among them was Mack Tribble, who I loved like a brother — still do — and who participated in the marriage of both our children. I am positive that when God drew up the plans for a kind and caring minister that radiated Christian love, Willie Mack Tribble was His prototype. I’m not sure what my chances are of getting to heaven, but if I can get even a temporary visa, I am going to see my family first and then I am going to hunt up Mack Tribble and thank him for what he meant to me.

As for the Secular Coalition for America, this is a free country and they have as much right to lobby legislators as the rest of us. (I would humbly suggest the atheists bring lots of money and free tickets to tractor pulls if they hope to have — pardon the pun — a prayer.) However, I must warn them that after spending last week with some of the finest Christian people I’ve ever met, they have their work cut out for them. Never underestimate the power of a Methodist. Can I get an Amen?

You can reach Dick Yarbrough at yarb2400@bellsouth.net or P.O. Box 725373, Atlanta, GA 31139.
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Just Saying
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June 23, 2012
To all of the people who want to take the Bible so literally...this is what KJV says in the book of Mark.

Mark 16:18 King James Version (KJV)

"They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

How many of you guys have handled a snake, drunk poison and survived, or healed someone by laying your hands on them lately?

Just saying.

Too funny
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June 22, 2012
By the way Dick, the press release cites SB 293 as an example of "recent religiously-inspired legislation." This is the language of SB 293 as introduced: "A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend Chapter 2 of Title 40 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to registration and licensing of motor vehicles, so as to require the nation's motto, "In God We Trust," to be printed on license plates; to provide that purchasers of license plates may cover the motto with a county name decal; to provide for related matters; to provide for an effective date; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes."

That is not the final law, but the Secular Coalition did not say that it was.



The final law says that the DOT shall provide an "In God We Trust" decal free of charge to any person requesting it. Free of charge means someone else is paying for it and that someone else is the taxpayer who may not be interested in paying for the advertisement of someone else’s supernatural deity.
Too funny
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June 21, 2012
While the methodists and baptists fight about who is going to heaven vs. hell and which version of the Bible is the “right” version, I'd like to ask Dick about the "God" stickers on government license plates.

I'm assuming tax dollars are being used to finance the manufacture and printing of stickers proclaiming a trust in God – capital “G” which in this country means Yahweh. I'm pretty sure that to most intellectually honest people, that is an example of government respecting an establishment of religion.

As for opening the legislative session with a Christian prayer, I’d recommend opening the session with a basic math lesson, something tangible that they could certainly use.
Sue Weinworka
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June 21, 2012
Too funny, God is the master of all math lessons and so much more. This country will only recover and prosper when it returns to the ways of God. America is a Christian country, founded by Bible-believing Christians. Government schools no longer teach our children these facts. How sad.
Too funny
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June 21, 2012
Wrong Sue. The US was founded on religious freedom which is precisely why so many religions and ideas are able to thrive here. We are a nation of laws with a constitution that explicitly separates church and state.

As a side note, if God is the master of all math lessons, he/she might take issue with whoever wrote 1 Kings 7:23, because pi does not equal 3.
Bro jake T
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June 21, 2012
@Too funny

You are a product of the secular government run education system. Congratulations! You learned your lessons well.
God's True Math
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June 21, 2012
Nice try Too funny, but like all atheists, you failed to give the WHOLE story. I Kings 7:26 clears up any perceived errors in God's Word. A "hands breadth," converts to about four inches, and that four inches accounts for the thickness of the vessel. The same four inches brings the diameter and circumference into a proper calculation of the value of pi. Of course, I know you will never believe this, and I just wanted to show the facts here for other readers. God's Word remains infallible, as it always has. Try again!
Too funny
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June 21, 2012
Bro Jake T, if by that you mean I live in the real world and think for myself, you're correct.
Too funny
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June 21, 2012
God's True Math, I'm intrigued. Please explain how the width of the edge of a circle factors in to the calucation of the diameter of a circle from rim to rim.
Don't Judge
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June 21, 2012
We all understand the belief that faith in Christ is the path to salvation, not works, and I believe it, too. No one is arguing that, Mike Salzey, so don't tell me that I misunderstand. There you go again, judging the minds and hearts of others.

But unless you know the heart of every single person, including Mr. Yarbrough, you don't know the extent of their faith. NONE of us has any way of knowing the inner heart of another human being. You all are putting yourselves on the same level as Christ by acting as if you know. You have no right to sit back and judge the faith of Mr. Yarbough or anyone else, and you will be held accountable. I agree with 'eCobb Dad of 3'.

By the way, if you're saying that Methodists are going to hell for having female pastors, come out and say it. It's you, Right on Him, Dictionary Guy, Mike Salzey, West Cobb Observer, and Bro KJV who are being politically correct if that's what you think and you don't just come out and say it. And sign your REAL name to if that's your mantra. Oh, no, don't sign your name. God knows who you are and He is the only One who matters.
Don't Judge Judges
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June 21, 2012
@Don't Judge

You lecture others not to judge and how they should use their real name. Yet, you use a nym and pass judgement on everyone here. How hypocritical!
Don't Judge
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June 21, 2012
To Don't Judge Judges:

You didn't read my whole passage. I went on to say that no one needs to sign his or her name. God knows who is saying what. He knows everyone's heart, and He is the ultimate judge. I don't care what YOU or anyone else thinks of me. I only care what He thinks.

I'd also be interested to know how these people know that the KJV is the supreme version of the Bible? Did God tell you in a burning bush? Send an angel to you in a dream? Or is it that it was endorsed by the Catholic church, yet another denomination? Just saying.
Right On Him
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June 21, 2012
Few people ever come to understand the difference between works based religions and Bible-believing Christianity. In His day, Jesus had to deal with religionists, and that same struggle continues to this day for Bible-believing Christians. The way to salvation is narrow, and few find it, and the ways of man always appeal more to us than the Word of God. The social gospel and the prosperity gospel are not the way to salvation, only the Gospel of Jesus Christ is.
eCobb Dad of 3
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June 21, 2012
I love hearing from the judges. It's amazing to me how people can think they are the best judge to determine what is the best path to follow in faith. In reality there is only one judge who can make that decision and I'm not fit to untie his sandals.

Big Bo Bubba
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June 21, 2012
@eCobb Dad of 3

Like so many here, you do not grasp the fact that God judges and not men. Your arguments are with God, not men. God clearly left his instructions for us in the KJV Bible. There is no argument, unless humans choose to defy God's Word. Your choice?
Dictionary guy
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June 20, 2012
NIV = Non Inspirational Version.

Don't Judge
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June 20, 2012
When I was a kid I visited a Baptist church with a friend where I was told that I was going to hell because I wasn't Baptist. I have not and never will again set foot in a Baptist church. It is easy to see with which church some of these bloggers are affiliated. Give me the Methodists any day. They welcome all sinners to come worship Christ together and care for their flocks with loving kindness and wonderful Christian example. Some of you people use your "versions" of the Bible to slam others. Interesting enough, I'd love to know if West Cobb Observer or Bro KJV are overweight, have ever gossiped, lied, cheated on their taxes, or committed adultery. YOU will be judged harsher than anyone, because you seem to think you know better and are superior. You can't pick and choose which portions of the Bible to follow. Stop judging others, lest you be judged.
Mike Salzey
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June 21, 2012
@Don't Judge

You misunderstand the thrust of the discussion taking place here. We are all sinners and fall short. However, there is but one way to salvation. Being a Baptist will not gain anyone eternal salvation. Only by placing your faith and trust in Jesus Christ can one gain eternal salvation. Most Baptist churches are Bible-believing Bible-preaching churches, but saying you are a Baptist or joining any church will not gain eternal salvation for you. Unfortunately, Bible versions which came AFTER the KJV grossly distorted Christ's message of salvation, which is why so much confusion over salvation exists today.
West Cobb Oserver
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June 20, 2012
Methodists, like so many today, pick and choose the parts of the Bible they want to believe or not believe, cafeteria-style, whatever is convenient for them at the time. Same thing for the NIV bible, it deletes parts of the Bible, rewords others to be politically correct, and in many instances, the NIV actually adds words that were never said by God, all to fit the modern liberal agenda. The NIV is a work of man, not God. The KJV Bible is clear, females cannot hold any leadership position in the church. And no, there is no restriction on a woman being your boss in a secular work place. Say what you want and believe what you want, what man says does not ever change the Word of God. God gives humans free choice. The rich man in hell lifted his eyes, begging for water, and asking if he might warn others of his fate, but God said no, we are all given free choice. Judging from years of Yarbrough's writing, he has made his choice, unfortunately. We will continue to pray for him and others who are lost.
Devlin Adams
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June 20, 2012
Pretty narrow minded and judgemental of you. First of all you do not determine who is lost and who is saved, so keep your judgements to yourself.

Second, NOBODY, knows what words God said, if he, indeed, ever really said any. The Bible has been interpreted many time. Your beloved KJV being only one of them, Yes, sorry to break your illusions but there were Bibles before King James decided to have his one. Oh, by the way, does it bother you a little bit that King James was a homosexual?

JUDGE NOT, LEST YE VE JUDGED.
Devlin Adams
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June 20, 2012
It will be inteesting to see if Bro KJV picks up on the trap I laid for him.
No Credibility
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June 20, 2012
@Devlin Adams

Yes, as you say, it will be "inteesting." Must be one of the words from the NIV?
Devlin Adams
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June 21, 2012
Sorry, No Credibility, but that word is out of the Gospel According to St. Typo.
Be Real
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June 20, 2012
I loved this article. Too many Christians are mired in judging and hating others under a veil of righteousness. Instead of behaving as Jesus would, they give their own interpretations of the Bible so they can feel superior to others. Rich Mullins sang that "Faith without works is like a screen door on a submarine". Wish more people would live it. It's great to stand up for the Bible and your beliefs, but loving others as Jesus would is what brings people to Christ.
Bro KJV
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June 20, 2012
The Methodist church has been in apostasy for years. You make this quote in your writings, "The church is about caring for and helping those in need." That quote describes good works, and good works will never gain you eternal salvation. Your quote is what is called the preaching of the social gospel, and again, that will never save you. You mention God's decision. Yes, God does make decisions, and they are all written down for us in the King James Bible. You ought to read it some time, Dick. You might just save your eternal soul. You are correct, the Bible is not for proving who is right or wrong, in the sense that you say. Your arguments, Dick, are with God, not men. God told us everything He wants us to know for now, and it can all be found in His Word, the King James Bible. Just because you say something is so, does not make it the truth. The Truth is found in God's Word, not yours or any other human. Your writings are entertaining and funny, particularly the way you interpret God's Word, but nothing is funny about your eternal salvation. I urge you to search for the Truth of the Bible, and my prayer for you is that one day you will find it, as so many of us have. Where lady preachers are there is apostasy, and that is very evident in the Methodist church today.
Devlin Adams
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June 20, 2012
Sorry, Bro KJV, but the King James Version is not any more God's word than some other VERSION.

You bigots who think your way is the only way and your church is the only church are one of the primary reasons we have so many atheists and agnostics. We can't all be wrong. We can't all be right, Or, can we? More probably we are all right and we are all wrong. God set down His law and it is what it is, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANY PERSON SAYS. God will make the final call on all of us. In the meantime, it would do you and your ilk well to abide by the adage, "Judgement is mine sayeth the Lord. I will repay." Unless you think you are the Lord, quit judging other people and worry about your own sins and failings.
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