“Foley Facts” - Questioning the accuracy of Kevin Foley of Kennesaw Georgia: What sources are used to manufacture “Foley-Facts” on Hispanic voting?”
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Recently, while reluctantly digesting (pass the Pepto) more of the writings of MDJ blogger Kevin Foley of Kennesaw Georgia, it was noted that he continually repeats the assertion that Hispanics were once a solidly Republican voting-bloc. Another “Foley-Fact?”

 “Foley-Facts” are different than real facts.

 According to Foley in one of his blogs “The crucial Hispanic-Latino voting bloc, once solidly GOP until the anti-immigrant dead enders like Mr. King, Jan Brewer and Joe Arpiao shooed them off, now supports President Obama over Mitt Romney by wide margins.” Angrily noting that this writer refused his offer to stop referring to illegal aliens as “illegal aliens” in another nugget of wisdom and while insisting that use of accurate and legal terms used in discussion of illegal immigration was driving Hispanics away from the GOP, Foley tells us he has determined that “proof could be found in the numbers of Hispanics and Latinos, formerly reliable Republican voters, who now support Democrats in overwhelming numbers.”

Using the endless liberal attempt to turn fantasy into “fact” by sheer repetition, Kevin Foley, a self proclaimed public relations expert, attempts to educate wonder-struck readers yet again in another blogging exhibition of his political expertise. He directs a warning to yours truly that truth is hurtful and must be regarded as “hate-talk’” with … “yours is a losing position as long as it's predicated on de-humanizing undocumented workers. How do I know? Hispanic and Latino voters - once reliably Republican - have fled the GOP in droves over the hate talk.” (All italics mine)

Angry Liberal Kevin Foley’s “Foley-Facts” have proven to be an ideal, real-life basis for lesson-planning for those of us who try to educate Americans on the crimes of illegal immigration and illegal employment. And he is being noted around the internet for his constant inaccuracies.

Real Fact: Hispanic Americans do not represent a monolithic voting block and according to Gallup, immigration is not their number-one issue.

Like most of us, important topics for voting Latinos are jobs, jobs, jobs, preserving first-world health care and the sinking Obama-owned economy. Only the blustering, research-free, clueless, fringe lefties actually believe that ignoring our laws and legalizing the millions of fugitive illegal aliens screaming in our streets would somehow help in that area. That includes the Hispanic Americans who proudly serve on the Board of Advisors of the pro-enforcement Dustin Inman Society for which this long-time American serves as sweeper, president and spokesman. Foley hopes readers don’t know that (real) fact.

The assertion that the majority of Hispanics were ever “solidly GOP” is the more of the usual “Foley-Fact” goop. Umm…when exactly?

We offer a reminder from one of Foley’s fellow liberal travelers, Carlos Munoz Jr, Professor Emeritus Department of Ethnic Studies, University of California, Berkeley: “the Mexican-American vote made the difference for President Kennedy in his defeat of Richard Nixon 40-years ago… politicians are well aware of the fact that Latinos will not vote as a cohesive bloc - the majority of Latinos are registered Democrats but the ranks of Latino Republicans has increased significantly over the years.” (BBC:“The Latino challenge” November, 2000).

Someone please tell Kevin Foley: Munoz is referring to John F. Kennedy, a Democrat who was elected President in 1960 – now more than fifty years ago. So much for Latinos being “once reliably Republican.” Somebody please ask Foley “when?”

We have taken to referring to his fabricated nonsense as “Foley-Facts” in good fun.  Let it be noted here that Kevin Foley should seriously consider hiring a fact-checker. We offer Politics Progressive Kevin Foley writing about the Tea Party and Congressman Allen West   and the Obama DREAM Act amnesty as just two examples in addition to the blog you are reading. More coming as time allows.

Wanna-be authority Kevin Foley may want to stoop to citing his sources when he shares his vast base of “knowledge” as he oozes down the race-baiting, anti-enforcement road.

Maybe he regards it as a ‘hate-fact”, but Foley should admit that candidate Barack Hussein Obama promised another amnesty during his first year in office. And that the Democrats were in full majority power for the first two years of his presidency. And that the reason there was not an official legalization program passed in congress is because the majority of Americans reject amnesty and identity politics.

And that Obama’s real record  on immigration enforcement is dismal, dangerous and calculated to buy votes from the less-than-patriotic Latinos who will put tribalism over the rule of law. Time will tell the size of that disgusting group.

Meanwhile, readers who have trouble figuring out the dynamics of the voting scenario as applied to “the Hispanic vote” may want to give Sean Trende’s May 28 commentary from National Review a read. Before Kevin Foley labels it “hate-talk.”

NRO:

The GOP and the Latino Vote (subscription)

Good news: Republicans can do what they think is right

“So why don’t Republicans perform better with Latino voters? The answer is simple: income. In 2008, Barack Obama won 73 percent of Latino voters earning less than $15,000 a year, and 57 percent of similarly situated white voters. (Although many Latinos are white, since “Latino” represents an ethnicity rather than a race, for simplicity’s sake I’ll use “white” as shorthand for “non-Hispanic white.”) Among voters making $100,000 to $150,000 a year, 59 percent of Latinos and 42 percent of whites went for Obama — a sizable difference, to be sure, but much less than the 24 points between Obama’s share of Latino and white voters overall.

In 2004 the pattern was even more pronounced. Among voters earning less than $15,000 a year, John Kerry won 58 percent of Latinos and 57 percent of whites — a nearly even split. Among those with annual incomes over $100,000, his share of both the Latino vote and the white vote dropped — to 50 and 37 percent, respectively.

In other words, Latino voters vote a lot more like white voters when you control for income. The difference is that there are more poor Latino voters than poor white voters, which creates the appearance of a larger divide between the groups when one looks only at the aggregated numbers.

But as the character of the Latino population changes from immigrant to second- and third-generation American, it should grow wealthier, and the income gap between Latinos and whites should close. This should, in turn, help to close the gap in voting patterns. To be sure, a gap of ten or fifteen percentage points between white and Latino voters is nothing to sneeze at. But neither does it spell ruin for the Republicans.”

We hope you will read more about - and from - Kevin Foley and Foley Facts on his MDJ blog.

Somebody should.  But get out the Pepto.

And a truth detector.

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Lib in Cobb
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August 15, 2012
@Marie: If I am too "dim" to deserve a response the why did you respond? You are drooling on yourself again.
Lib in Cobb
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August 15, 2012
President Obama's new amnesty law went into effect today. Thank you Mr. President for a sensible approach.

@Marie: There were 1.2 million deportations ordered by the Obama admin in the last three years, according to The NY Times/June 15, 2012. The NY Times is a well respected news source which can be trusted. You can spin the news any way you wish, the spin will not change the truth.

Have a nice day.
Marie in Marietta
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August 14, 2012
Lib - Good grief, you are officially too dim to deserve a respopnse. All you do here is "regurgitate" the pablum the liberal press feeds you. Obama himself has said that his "deportation" numbers were deceptive and many have caled him on it. Turning an illegal border crosser away at the border is no a "deportation." Thay has been mentioned here many times and was a news item in the MDJ.

The concept of attrition through enforcement is working, which is why the Obama Regime threw the law out the window and granted amensty to what will end up being several million illegal laiens...many of whom are still in Mexico printing up their papers to prove they have been here since you had a cognizant thought...quite some time ago.

You are an Obama voter. Thereby unworthy of note or response. Please just keep showing yourself here?

Lib in Cobb
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August 14, 2012
@Dick W: If President Obama was not enforcing immigration then how do you explain the 1.2 million deportations in the last three years?

The 1.2 million deportations are the most by any president since the 1950s.

NY Times

June 15, 2012
Lib in Cobb
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August 14, 2012
@Marie: I was thinking you might have an original idea regarding immigration. I now know without doubt that creative thinking is well beyond your capacity. Regurgitating requires no thought or analysis.

Lib in Cobb
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August 13, 2012
@Marie: It's just fine with me that the number of young people being given amnesty has increased to nearly 2 million. It's just fine. I am very well aware of the number being granted amnesty, the more the merrier.

I just love it when our president rattles your cage along with the other "wingers" with beneficial programs. Where did your ancestors come from and why? Mine came from England in 1631, they were seeking religious and political freedom. They were very liberal thinking people, who risked their lives for freedom, they were people who were persecuted in their home country and persecuted here also.
Dick W
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August 11, 2012
The stats that Foley presents don't prove his statements. Very curious. I read the NRO article and think that it is so obvious that most people vote according to their income. It is sickening, but true. Poor people will remain poor because they wil vote to stay on the plantation the Dems pertpetuate for them.

There are Hispanics who will vote for Obama because he refuses to enforce immigration, but in the end, it will ruin the nation and end up costing them income because the next wave of illegals will undermine the more successful.
Marie in Marietta
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August 10, 2012
It is up to one million seven hundred thousand illegal aliens Lib...not 177,000. I didn't type a zero.

But it is too funny that you don't even know that the number of aliens to be amnestied has doubled. The goal for most Americans is to secure the borders, insure that visa holders actually leave when they are supposed to and to deny jobs, services and benefits to illegal aliens who are here. We know they scream a lot, but they depart all areas where the law is enforced. Imagine that. If you want to paint it as "starving them out" that is FINE with me. The process is called attrition through enforcement. Specific enough Lib? This is about the fifth time you have been told here.
Lib in Cobb
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August 10, 2012
@Juno: No I am not Kevin Foley. You can believe that if you want to, but I doubt you have the capacity.

@Marie: You have continued to complain about our president and the immigration situation. If you were president, what would you do to solve the immigration problem? Be specific.

Lib in Cobb
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August 10, 2012
@Marie: So the number of undocumented immigrants which will be helped by president Obama's order has be reduced fro 800,000 to 177,000, thanks for sharing.

You are tired of typing, I am tired of reading your drool.

OK, the INS is now ICE, bad me. I guess you can swear out an arrest warrant for that horrible error.

Thanks for playing.

Juno B
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August 10, 2012
Marie, I think that Lib in Cobb is really Kevin Foley who has seen the foley folly of posting in his real name and needs anther name here that can't think. Even if not, they write the exact same thing. I am a D.A. King fan and follow him closely. Great comments to Lib below! Lib knows very little! SO TRUE!
Marie in Marietta
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August 10, 2012
Oh, Lib, there hasn't been an "INS" for a decade. It is now called Immigration & Customs Enforcement or ICE. I read here everyday. Have you caught up on ITIN and illegal aliens income taxes yet? Can you possibly grasp the concept of attirition through enforcement and that no one is saying we must deport all illegals by next week?

When you try to sound reasonable, it always blows up in your face - the rule of law? The rule of law? It was you who posted here that Obama did the right thing by bypassing congress (we the people)and granting amensty to what he said was 800,000 illegal aliens. That number is now up to 177,000 illegal aliens Lib. None of us think that having a communist Tribal Chief Ruler in the White House who ignores enforcement of the laws while trying to get re-elected has anything to do with the "rule of law."

Like Kevin Foley, you read the radical liberal blogs and newspapers and then try to pass the garbage you glean off in the real world. All it does is show us you really know nearly nothing.

We have a backlog of current immigration cases, so we should put two million more in the system? So many people violate the immigration laws that the only answer is to ignore the immigration law?

Try that with your income taxes Lib.

The constant joke on you is that you are too dim to see that you really do support the concept of open borders, because coming here legally is just....too...hard. Forget that a million people a year already do it and that our poorest suffer the most from legal and illegal immigration. I am tired of typing, so I don't have time to even bring up what immigration in general is doing to our unemployed. Lib, you are a Foly Follower for a reason: You are unable to see past your nose or what the media tells you to "know".
Lib in Cobb
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August 10, 2012
@Gloves: There is something here in the US called "Due Process", perhaps you have heard of it. No matter who is president and no matter how many relatives of that president are living here allegedly by illegal means, "Due Process" is the rule of law. GET IT? It is the responsibility of the INS to prosecute and deport. There is a current backlog of immigration cases which has had and will have the legal system tied up for several years, if no more cases are added. It seems you are overly concerned with two people who are related to President Obama rather than looking at the big picture.

Omar's vote in 2008 was not responsible for the beat down of McCain and his running dope. The margin was 9.5 million popular votes in favor of President Obama, if you wish to subtract Omar's vote then go right ahead. The result of that subtraction will still equal a beat down.
Gloves Donahue
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August 09, 2012
We have a president now with two illegal aliens in his own family living here : Uncle Omar, the drunk driver, and Aunt Zeituni, living on welfare in a housing project. Both were ordered out many years ago and stayed.

Omar has a drivers's license and SS card. How many times has he voted and for who? Bet he's never voted Republican.
Danny Boy
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August 09, 2012
D.A. King and the truth wins again.
anonymous
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August 08, 2012
I meant the foley person looks like he is having a meltdown
Dave Gorak
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August 08, 2012
Memo to Mr. Foley:

I'm still awaiting your answer to the question I posted here on August 6. Can I expect the courtesy of a reply?

anonymous
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August 07, 2012
It looks like this guy is having a meltdown to me.
anonymous
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August 07, 2012
OBAMA SCAM AMNESTY FACTS COMING OUT - from DA's website blog page and Center for Immigration Studies.

"The education/military "requirement" of the DREAM Scheme has been strongly emphasized by the White House as it seeks to persuade America of the benefits of this amnesty program for some one million illegal aliens. (Wait, make that two million!)

Yet, when you examine the fine print you will find that:

•An alien can qualify without ever having spent a day in a school of any kind; or a minute in the Armed Forces, and

•The program offers absolutely nothing to the tiny handful of illegal aliens with honorable discharges from the military, because this little group is nicely, and I think appropriately, covered by more generous provisions in the current law.

In short, both the education and the military provisions of the program are red-white-and-blue fig leaves designed (to mix a metaphor) to help the bitter taste of an executive-created amnesty go down smoothly with the general public.

Lib in Cobb
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August 07, 2012
@Hiya: No we Liberals don't regard facts that don't support out position as hate. We regard them as incorrect, but you can't help being incorrect, you are led around by Fox, Rush and other knumbskulls like Palin and Bachmann. If you chose to think occasionally you might just see the light. Maybe not!
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