by Katy Ruth Camp
krcamp@mdjonline.com
November 10, 2009 01:00 AM | 2793 views | 16

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Sen. Johnny Isakson speaks to the Madison Forum meeting at Rib Ranch in Marietta on Monday. Isakson said the health care bill has little chance of passing in the Senate. ‘I expect there will be six to eight weeks of debate, taking it past Christmas and after the new year begins,’ he said.
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MARIETTA - U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-east Cobb) thinks the health care bill that passed the House on Saturday has almost no chance in the Senate because Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) has vowed to join a majority Republican filibuster against the measure.
"Unlike the House, we operate under unanimous consent," he said to members of Cobb's Madison Forum political group Monday. "So the bill will have a difficult time when it comes to the Senate. I expect there will be six to eight weeks of debate, taking it past Christmas and after the new year begins. I think over time, people will find out more about the bill than they did when it went before the House, when they printed it just before they voted, and I don't even think they printed the whole thing. And with Lieberman joining our filibuster, that brings it to 41 votes, which would make it impossible to pass." Isakson said he believes health care should be reformed, but should be approached step-by-step and not widespread, as the House bill suggests.
"We had health care bills before the new administration came in, and we actually had ours printed," Isakson said. "I believe in the private sector, and that doctors should be innovative and patients should be able to pick their doctors. But this bill is designed to tax everyone into a government-run system and away from the private sector, and that's not right."
Isakson said he believes President Barack Obama's push to get the bill passed quickly is based largely on his desire to remain in office after the 2012 election.
"Taxes for this bill would start in 2010, but the policy would not begin until 2013. So that means it wouldn't start until after the election. I think that is really a self-admission by the administration that this thing is a turkey, and that they can get by until after the next election cycle," Isakson said.
Isakson stressed the importance of the 2010 election.
"The question of 2010 is where our nation is going to go from here. This health care debate will change the America we leave for our grandchildren, so please go out and vote," Isakson said.
The senator also fielded questions about immigration and the recession.
When asked about his thoughts on reforming immigration laws, Isakson said it should all come down to the U.S.'s employment environment at the time.
"If unemployment is low, immigration should be high because those people will be needed to work jobs here in the country. That's how my family got into the country at the beginning of the 20th century, because my grandfather came over from Sweden and worked at a time when unemployment was low. But when unemployment is high, like it is now, then the number of immigrants should be low and restricted. There are 43 ways to get into the U.S. as an immigrant, and those people should come to America to do the work that Americans can't. But with Americans out of work, that doesn't exist."
Cobb Sheriff Neil Warren, who attended the luncheon, told the senator that the county police department has developed its own 287(g) report in rebuttal to the report released by the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU accused the department of racial profiling and unnecessarily detaining immigrants under the program.
When Warren told the senator he would be sending him the alternate report, Isakson said, "I look forward to it.
"The administration is avoiding the subject, which tells you which way they're thinking," he said. "287(g) is about getting illegal immigrants out, and the best enforcement is good education. We need to take away their ability to hide in the shadows."
Isakson said he believes the war on terror still exists, and that there should be an investigation of the entire financial system, from the federal government to corporate employees.
"I think transparency works for everyone, and the government should be as transparent as they require us to be. Put a microscope on everyone and find out what happened and who is responsible, so this doesn't happen again," Isakson said.
Isakson offered this advice to the group of politically outspoken citizens: "In my opinion, the weight of your impact is based on these three things - persistence, knowledge, and respect. If people lose respect in you completely, they will set you aside. But if you are respectful of those around you and command respect, have the knowledge to be intelligent on what you're speaking on and the persistence to get that point across, you'll be successful," he said.
Here's to you! I fell for it. I should have known you were putting me on.
Your reply is insufficient as are any of the ruse-wannabe arguments you are thrusting forth to show how little you know about the complexities of our economy, society, or culture. If you feel trying to rouse false indignation is a way to participate in a serious argument stick with the lock-step republican fascist tea party zombies without-enough-problems. Your type FEAR freedom... it scares you to all get out. You like control and embrace non-intellectualism. It is YOU who belong way far away from this country that you and your night-of-the-living dead buds are trying to destroy with your catch phrases and false allegiance to deity and country. Since you are so fond of blind devotion and unquestioning following might I suggest one of the middle eastern dictatorships for your new home? They would no doubt be as delighted to have you as we are to send you there. Farewell.
So, you are against making a profit? How in the world is one supposed to make a living. Like I said if you don't like capitalism, go to live in a country where they don't have it.
You just basically said that all doctors care about is profit and not about helping people.
Capitalism is about people working and using their God given talents in their own self interest; not selfishness. Human beings are flawed and some will be unscrupulous. This can't be avoided. With government running the health care system it will be inept, too expensive, the care will be insufficient and rationed, R&D will be severely curtailed (because there will be no profit incentive to do so!), and worst of all the there will be no reversing it.
Bye the way, the politicians in the government will be exempt from the health care that us plebes will receive.
This is about loosing our precious freedom. Not about making health care better and more accessible.
What, exactly are those jobs please?
Catchy name your use; sounds like you borrowed it from a Tea Party poster. Why don't you explain to me what you think all the frivolously used terms in your reply means to you? And while you are at it and you presume to be an economic philosopher, pray tell me how health care and capitalism are in congruence? For instance, I know this may be a surprise to you but capitalism is heavily reliant on PROFITS; OK? And capitalist entities try to MAXIMIZE profits...got that? If you think I'm wrong please site me in your rebuttal. OK, now what incentive does a doctor who is driven to maximize profit, as a capitalist - laissez-faire entrepreneur - have to help you prevent illness and get over it quickly? Does he maximize his profit by having you not be ill at all? What is the incentive to offer cures for diseases when there is an overwhelming amount of capital tied up in treatments that yield increasingly higher payments? I wait eagerly for your intelligent and diplomatic reply. And by the way, my ancestors participated in the war to establish the founding of this country, so I have three words for you for telling me to leave it.
Johnny also said NO to amnesty...why isn't that in the paper?
You are right on we do not need a command and control ObamaCare solution to Healthcare. We all know it is broken and needs a fix. It is too bad that the promise of "reaching across the isle" and transparency never materialized. I have seen various ideas presented by the Republican Party including Tort Reporm, eliminate the preexisting conditions and portability. Why is it so challenging to get the Dems to see a common sense approach first?
In terms of immigration I have no problem letting immigrants into the USA if they are legal, pay taxes and do not become just takers without contribution. It is time to tackle this problem without the political worry of "we will tick off these constituants" remember these illegials are not constituants they are law breakers and not legal.
Thanks for some common sense....you have my vote and support
Have you been reading up on your Karl Marx lately? The terms you are using sure seem like it.
If you like the anti-capitalist, collectivist government, why don't you move to Europe or Canada where that is how things are run? Why must we change what this country was founded upon? (IE. free market economy and Liberty.) Besides, insurance originally was for catastrophic illness. It isn't a "right". Next thing you know, people like you will say the government needs to pay for our food too.
You know, bad things happen. People get sick and it's going to cost money. That's life. It ain't ever going to be perfect. You save up your money and hope you can pay for it when the unthinkable happens. Stop thinking the Gov. is supposed to pay for all your woes.
We are one of the few industrialized countries that don't have universal health care.
For people with pre-existing conditions such as High Blood Pressure -- are you suggesting that it's ok for them to go untreated for 6-18 mos.? If they don't have the money to pay full cost for the prescriptions and can't afford the full cost to get to a doctor to HOPEFULLY receive some samples? What out options are available to them?
You people are so stuck on "keeping government out of our healthcare" but you seem to have no objection to a low level assistant at the insurance company denying you coverage?? Please.
* Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
* Page 110—Section 222(e) requires the use of federal dollars to fund abortions through the government-run health plan—and, if the Hyde Amendment were ever not renewed, would require the plan to fund elective abortions.
*Page 111—Section 223 establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the “Health Benefits Advisory Committee”) to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase—and would likely require all Americans to subsidize and purchase plans that cover any abortion.
*Page 211—Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries at the Lewin Group, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage.
*Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care plan.
We need to have comprehensive tort reform. When the fraud and abuse in medicare is found then the funds if recovered must go back into medicare not into a general fund thereby leaving medicare in the red.
We need jobs and the goverment must cut taxes that is the only way to get out of this.