Wobbly conservatives
by Kevin_Foley
 Politics Progressive
September 09, 2013 05:18 PM | 2347 views | 7 7 comments | 15 15 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

You conservatives crack me up.  You can’t make up your minds. When President Obama isn't Hitler, he’s the appeaser Neville Chamberlain. When he’s not  Uncle Joe Stalin, he’s Silent Cal.

Syrian dictator Basar al-Assad gasses his own people and President Obama wants to enforce the red line he told Assad not to cross, a red line with which the likes of Rep. Paul Ryan, the failed GOP vice presidential candidate, said he agreed when he was campaigning last year.

Now that the red line has been breached, a lot of tough guy conservatives have gone all wobbly – to quote the late Margaret Thatcher – over nailing this bloodthirsty SOB who would commit any moral obscenity to stay in power.

Time for a little history lesson, ladies and gentlemen:

In 1979, the tiny Caribbean island of Granada underwent a bloody coup in which a pro-Communist government was established. Without consulting Congress, in 1983 President Ronald Reagan sent U.S. troops to Grenada to topple the regime. For cover, Reagan told Americans the attack was necessary to protect Americans attending a medical school in Grenada. The students said they were never in any danger.

Killed in the invasion were four Seal Team Six members along with 15 other Americans. The United Nations condemned the attack as a flagrant violation of international law. Reagan’s ally, the aforementioned Thatcher, told Reagan not to invade. Reagan had little to gain by attacking Grenada – except making sure he was reelected the following year.

In 1989, again without seeking Congress’ consent, President George H.W. Bush invaded Panama to remove the pesky drug trafficking dictator, Manuel Noriega, a former U.S. ally.

 More than 500 Panamanians were killed along with 23 American troops to capture one man. Panama’s infrastructure was ruined.

Once again, the cover story went that Bush wanted to protect lives, but there was sufficient U.S. military presence in Panama to guard American lives and interests. It appears now, as in 2003, when Bush’s son invaded Iraq, the first Bush was trying to score political points, showing himself to be a strong and decisive leader ahead of the 2002 presidential election.

Both the Grenada and Panama invasions had popular support at home even though America’s interests were, at best, cloudy.

Obama should have done what he initially wanted to do. Ignore Congress as Reagan and Bush did, hit Syria, then let the chips fall where they may. Obama has nothing to gain politically by striking Syria, other than to show other murderous dictators it can happen to them too if they commit atrocities on the scale of Assad’s.

Obama’s not running for re-election as were Reagan, Bush I and Bush II.

The same congressional chicken hawks who clamored for the take down of Saddam Hussein in 2002 are today wringing their hands over a Democratic president who would use force to show the rest of the world we won’t allow atrocities like the one in Syria without severe consequences.

In doing so, they reveal themselves as the hacks they are, willing to go to war when politically expedient for them and willing to let Assad murder children when it's not.

Obama should now sit back, let Congress tie itself in knots, and  know that his first instinct was the correct one.

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Kevin Foley
September 20, 2013
For once, Cobb Co. Guy makes a good point, just not the one he's trying to make.

You NEVER saw criticism like this of the Bush administration from the right wing commentators when 4,500 Americans were killed for nothing in Iraq. The Hannitys, Limbaughs, Coulters and Krauthammers, to this day, make all sorts of excuses for Bush's 10-year war.

Progressives criticize their own when it is warranted. We always have. Yes, Obama bungled this, but no Americans died needlessly as a result. He's guilty of doing what every pol does: spinning the narrative. Big deal.
September 17, 2013
For those of you who are not political junkies, the good folks quoted below - Maureen, Joe, Roger and Ruth - are no conservatives.

September 10, Maureen Dowd:

"Obama’s flip-flopping, ambivalent leadership led him to the exact place he never wanted to be: unilateral instead of unified. Once again, as with gun control and other issues, he had not done the groundwork necessary to line up support."

September 11, Joe Klein:

"It has been one of the more stunning and inexplicable displays of presidential incompetence that I’ve ever witnessed. The failure cuts straight to the heart of a perpetual criticism of the Obama White House: that the President thinks he can do foreign policy all by his lonesome."

September 12, Roger Cohen:

"The sight of a president who draws a red line on chemical attack and then says “I didn’t set a red line” (the world did); who has Kerry plead a powerful case for military action only to stall; who defers to Congress but seems happy enough with Congress ambling back into session more than a week later; who notes that for “nearly seven decades the United States has been the anchor of global security,” and then declares “America is not the world’s policeman” — the sight of all this has marked a moment when America signaled an inward turn that leaves the world anchorless."

September 16, Ruth Marcus:

"Style points? Seriously? Style points? That’s what President Obama thinks the criticism of his zigzag Syria policy amounts to?

As presidential spin, this is insulting. As presidential conviction — if this is what he really believes — it’s scary."
Lib in Cobb
September 14, 2013
@cobb Guy: Yes, you are partially correct, many Democrats don't like the idea of any involvement in Syria. "Hair on fire", that's a stretch. We Progressive thinkers are not about to bring impeachment proceedings against President Obama over this issue or any other, as has been discussed by multiple members of the GOP whose hair has been on fire since November 2008.
Lib in Cobb
September 12, 2013
No matter what our president could ask for, the high end obstructionists of the GOP are going to say, "no". I would rather see them vote to repeal The Affordable Care Act for the 41st time. The GOP has complained that President Obama had no foreign policy, but when he asks, he is turned down. I didn't expect anything different and I don't think President Obama expected to win this argument either.

I don't want to see more bodies dumped into another bottomless middle eastern pit. I would love to see peace in the middle east, but many people have been saying that for a very long time.
Lib in Cobb
September 11, 2013
No matter what our president asks for, he is going to be met with significant opposition from the "off the chain" right wingers. The opposition to any military action in Syria by the right is not about foreign policy, it is about the hatred of President Obama, because a liberal, black man with a Muslim name dared to beat their flawed candidates, TWICE. Then there are the people who are "doves" who just don't want anymore bloodshed over a situation which will have little to no impact, like Iraq and Afghanistan and Viet Nam.

September 11, 2013
The One is tanking in the polls and our progressive friends are running around with their hair on fire.
Guido Sarducci
September 10, 2013
What? Nothing about Truman invading Korea, or Kennedy invading Vietnam?

Sorry, Kevin, but bringing up past mistakes does not justify making another one.

There is a growing body of evidence to suggest that it may not have been the government who used the gas, but rather the Muslim rebels we are arming and trying to help.

But, of course, you are unwilling to look at such,as it would make your boy Obama, a liar.

You are so predictable.
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