Did you ever wonder why….?
by Pete_Borden
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January 10, 2013 10:09 AM | 2360 views | 13 13 comments | 18 18 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink
Did you ever wonder why the gun control advocates refuse to acknowledge the huge body of scientific studies showing a direct cause and effect relationship between violent media (TV shows, movies, video games, children’s cartoons) and violent behavior?  Is it because of the large support the President, and the communications media, get from the entertainment media?

Did you ever wonder why the media is so intent upon pushing the gun control agenda of this administration even to the extent of ignoring all evidence of other causes of violent behavior?

Did you ever wonder what will be the reaction of the 50 millions gun owners in this country when this administration directly attacks the Second Amendment?

Did you ever wonder why President Obama thinks he can just dismiss the Second Amendment by writing an Executive Order?  Does he really think he was elected dictator instead of President?

Did you ever wonder why the rush to ban guns for everybody, when the crimes are committed by criminals, nor law abiding gun owners?   A half a hundred people commit crimes with guns and the gun control advocates want to punish 50 million innocent people for it.

Did you ever wonder how the gun control advocates plan to deal with the fact that those bent on committing crimes with guns will not pay one bit of attention to their silly gun ban laws?

Did you ever wonder if the gun control advocates realize that if we give up our guns, we will be defenseless against a growing number of armed criminals, thugs and hoodlums?

Did you ever wonder if a .38 in the hand is more effective than a cop on the phone, in stopping someone intent on doing you harm?

Did you ever wonder why the mainstream media never reported on the 14 Mexican teens reportedly  gunned down at a birthday party, some with weapons given the killers by President Obama’s ill conceived Fast and Furious Program?

Did you ever wonder why President Obama is giving guns to the Mexican drug cartels, planes to Egypt and arms to Libya, but wants to disarm American citizens?

Did you ever wonder why an armed person is called a citizen and an unarmed person is called a subject?  Give up your weapons and you won’t have to wonder why any more.

Did you ever wonder why, if just passing a law is going to get guns off the street, we don’t apply the same logic to alcohol, drugs, and illegal aliens?  Oh, yeah, we did that with alcohol. It was called prohibition and gave birth to modern organized crime syndicates.  We have law against drugs, but the streets are full of them and drug addiction is at an epidemic stage.  We have .laws against illegal aliens, but we have about 15 millions of them in this country right now.

Did you ever wonder why the gun control advocates are loath to refer to the Columbine shootings in their mad rush to ban “assault weapons?”  The Columbine shootings were carried out with three handguns and two shotguns, but only one rifle, not by responsible gun owners, but by a couple of psychotic students, who  planted improvised explosive devices in the cafeteria, which, if they had exploded would have killed virtually everyone in the cafeteria. They also planted explosive devices in their own cars, timed to explode and kill first responders.  Nope, the full facts on Columbine would not lend much support to their bull headed charge to ban rifles.

Did you ever wonder why the most outspoken gun control advocates are people who never served in the military, have led what we call sheltered lives, have never been called upon to defend anything requiring force, are somewhat ignorant of weaponry and might even be afraid of guns?.

Did you ever wonder why some of the most vociferous proponents of gun control are not willing to discus the real issue, not willing to discuss alternatives such as banning high capacity magazines, instead of rifles? Could it be that they are being paid by the gun control lobby to sway public opinion, and are only in it for the money?

Just a few things to wonder about, besides why our paychecks are suddenly smaller, and why Benghazi is suddenly out of the news, with no real answers yet.

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Lib in Cobb
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January 16, 2013
George: You are comparing Kennesaw to NYC and Chicago. Just plain stupid. Do you recall the mass murder/shooting in Kennesaw just three years ago? That shooting took place within a gun free school zone. I guess Jesse James Warren (the shooter) did not see the signs.

The current patchwork of gun control laws in the US do not work. A national gun control program is needed so people who want to buy an assault weapon can't buy one in a neighboring state. No one needs and assault weapon, rifle or pistol.

It would help your cause if you stopped using stupid comparisons.
George Middleton
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January 12, 2013
Kevin, you and your budddy Lib need to get your stories straight. You say New York is safe because of strict gun control laws. Chicago has stricter gun control laws and it is not safe. Over 400 school children shot there during 2011, 66 of them fatally. Connecticut has stringent gun control laws, including an "assault" weapons ban. Why did that not stop the Sandy Hook massacre? Lib says it because the law is not a national one.

The real answer is gun control alws do not work, period. Kennesaw is an example of what sensible gun laws can accomplish. Ypu must understasnd that the problem is not law abiding people, but lawbreakers who are responsible for gun violence. No law you pass, local, state or national is going to stop them because they do not obey the laws.

By the way, please do not presume to lecture me. I am not defending gun violence as being ok. Nor do I spout NRA BS.

This is a forum for all people, not just the ones who agree with you. We should be able to state our case without being insulted and talked down to. And we shoud be able to discuss issues without getting nasty. If you cannot do that, then you do not need to be in journalism at all.
George Middleton
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January 12, 2013
Lib, what needs to be done to stop mass killins, is a multi-faceted action. It has been expounded on in these blogs quite sufficiently, without my having to repeat it.

The problem is that you gun control freaks can only keep screaming the same BS.

If gun cotnrol laws worked, Chicago would be a very safe city, and the Sandy Hook shootings would never have happened.

Your "buddy" Foley keeps pointing to New York City as an example of how strict gun control laws work. You keep saying they don't work, because they are not national. I point to Kennesaw as an example of how sensible gun control laws make a community safer, Switzerland is one of the safest countris in the world,because half the citizenry is armed.

Oh, and as to your statement that you have a brain instead of a noodle, that has yet to be established, at least in these blogs.
Kevin Foley
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January 12, 2013
@ Middleton - You really don't get it, do you?

It's not about stopping all gun murders. That's impossible. It's about reducing their numbers. New York City, the gun murder capital 20 years ago, had its lowest number of homicides in 2012 thanks to strict gun safety laws.

Stop spouting NRA BS and defending gun murders as OK.
Lib in Cobb
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January 12, 2013
@George: What I have said multiple times is, the current gun control laws are ineffective. The patchwork of gun control laws across this nation are ineffective. Ineffective laws are just that, ineffective. It is now time to put into place VERY STRICT federal gun control laws. Such as: banning assault weapons, banning high capacity mags, banning semi auto firearms completely, very deep and thorough background checks for any gun buyer each time a gun is purchased, very high taxes on all guns and all associated products, limit manufacturing of all firearms, ban importation of all guns and associated products, no more internet or catalog purchases of anything firearm related. Provide increased support to people who are at risk of committing violent acts.

I take no money from any group involving gun control, my core values are not for sale. I don't have a "noodle", I have a brain.

You have on several occasions expressed your thoughts that gun control is not the answer. You have never made any suggestions on what would prevent gun violence. Typical.

George Middleton
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January 11, 2013
Lib in Cobb, you are dead wrong. The fact that Chicago's strict gun control laws, and those in the state of Connecticut fail to prevent gun related crime is proof that gun control is not the answer, whether it be state, local or national.

Get your head out of the sand, quit taking money from the gun control people to spout nonsense, and use you noodle to think with.
Lib in Cobb
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January 11, 2013
@BS

I hope for the same things you hope for.

The murders in Chicago have not been ignored by our president. Strict national gun control will be for everyone. No one is ignoring the "socio-economic demographics" involved. I will remind you that Chicago has strict gun control laws. Those laws are ineffective, that should tell you that the patchwork of gun control laws across this nation are ineffective.

You have made a veiled inference about black on black crime. The race of the victims and the people committing the murders is not important to me, because it is a life taken, no matter the race. The person who commits the black on black murder is not thinking about the race of the victim, nor is it a reason. Drugs and money are two reasons for crime in the inner city. The weapon of choice in these murders is most often a gun, nearly 70% of all murders are committed with a gun.

If you wish to call a "horsewhip" an "assault weapon" be my guest. When the term "assault weapon" is used in the context of any conversation regarding gun control, it doesn't take much to recognize what type of weapon is being discussed.

The pro-gun crowd gets their panties in a twist over terminology. I will call an AR 15 or a Bushmaster an "assault weapon", you can call it what you whatever you like. If you don't like the term "assault weapon", you are free to ignore my posts or other posts by people who think the term "assault weapon" is very appropriate.
NO-BS
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January 11, 2013
LibnCobb,

Hope you never experience the terror of a group home invasion. Hope you never experience a car-jacking. Hope you are never held at gunpoint by a 12 year old between Eastlake and Edgewood Candler Park stations while a carload of adult passengers "ignore" what is "going down".

Assault weapon? If I take a horsewhip to you - THAT - has become an assault weapon. A victim defense and prevention weapon is whatever is necessary to stop aggression, without regard to your definition of statistical reasonableness.

President Obama and his bud Rahm have yet to address the socioeconomic-demographics of gang related crime. Take a hard look at Chicago homicide statistics - who is killing who? Where is the outrage at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? There isn't any........because it's business as usual baby, just business as usual.
Pete Borden
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January 11, 2013
Ksvin, I posted a response with a link to one article, yesterday, but I found out that the MDJ will not publish links.

If you will google "Effect of violence in media upon behavior", you will find a wealth of information on the subject.
frogbreath
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January 10, 2013
Foley:

"Did you ever wonder why empty vessels make the most noise?"

I'll bet if you stop shaking your head, the noise will go away....
Steve Rhinehart
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January 10, 2013
Hey, Pete, you missed a couple.



"Did you ever wonder why the gun control advocate are always pointing to England, with it's soon to be 65% income tax rate on middle class, and socialized medicine, ever increasing Muslim population, as a paragon of what gun control can do? Why not choose a closer example? Kennesaw, GA is a shining example of what sensible gun laws can accomplish.



Did you ever wonder why gun control advocates avoid talking about the state of Florida, which experienced a major drop in violent crimes when they passed legislation allowing citizens to arm themselves?



Kevin Foley
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January 10, 2013
Pete, why don't you cite one of these "scientific studies" linking violent entertainment to violent behavior? I really want to see one. Just one.

BTW, the NRA museum recently hosted it's "Guns in Movies" exhibition where you could see weapons like those used in "Pulp Fiction," a violent bloodbath picture.

Did you ever wonder why empty vessels make the most noise?

Lib in Cobb
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January 10, 2013
I have begun to wonder why people like you are so opposed to gun control. Is it because the more guns you have the bigger the man you may be. I have begun to wonder if you are suffering from the onset of dementia.

Our president is aware he cannot change the second by executive order, he has a law degree from Harvard and taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago School of Law. Use you head Pete.

There is no requirement to serve in the military to have an opinion. Use your head Pete.

Mass murders and singular murders can be accomplished with the use of a variety of guns, all the more reason for very strict national gun control laws on all guns and accessories. Use your head Pete.

The majority of your points are meaningless. I do agree that a multifaceted approach to the problem of violence and gun violence is necessary. I will now suggest that you as a gun nut go to the head of the line for the much needed therapy. Your manhood isn't any larger because you have a .357.

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